I don't think the Sabres make this move, Mantha is really good when healthy, but I don't see the Sabres moving this years pick for him especially when he needs a new contract

Not an easy move? There isnt a chance in hell buffalo would do that trade.

Mantha is a prime example on why you dont sell off a prospect that is behind in development.

Id love to get my hands on that 8th oa pick but moving mantha would be hard for this team to take. Sure leaving this draft with Drysdale and then maybe perfetti at 8 would be great though.

Benning already said he wouldn't send a sweetener for a cap dump so I think its safe to say Vancouver trade wouldn't happen and if im DET I don't do the Buffalo trade

Plus a flyer on mitts, what a great deal for detroit

Buffalo trade would be 8th overall, 2nd round pick in 2020 and one of Matias Samuelson or Ryan johnson. I rather that then mitts

Are we sure the person posting this is a Wing's fan? Last week a couple of Sabers fan's were discussing Mittelstadt being a bust. Since Mantha just bought a house in Detroit I think it's safe to say he won't be going anywhere soon.

Don't let littlejerrysienfield see this he hates Mantha

A struggling prospect and MAYBE a good prospect for a guy who could legit pot 40+ with Eichel. It's nuts how many people have no clue how how good Mantha's skillset is, too many stat watchers who don't factor context and don't actually watch other teams play

Mantha CAN be a stud, he was on fire this year, but he would have to put those stats up in more than one year. With Mantha needing a new contract, and the Sabres being on an alleged internal cap, I don't see how Buffalo could move 8th overall for him

Mantha is a RFA under team control--it's not like getting UFA rights. You can match any other team's offer.

Mantha's injuries were due to fights (vs soon to be teammate Luke Witkowski costing him 5 games and soon to be teammate Patrik Nemeth costing a month) sticking up for teammates, getting slew-footed by Jake Muzzin and landing on his rib cage which punctured his lung he was back in 6 weeks, and a knee on knee collision with Kyle Palmieri for 3 weeks: lets not make it sound like he has a reoccurring injury or missed any great length of time. He was back on the ice for the rest of the season in all but the Luke Witkowski fight because there was only 5 games left in the season.

Sniper power forwards are so rare you should never trade one. And certainly not for a middling forward like Mittelstadt. The Wings problem last year was there inability to score goals and you want to give away a potential 35-40 goal scorer for a guy that has 17 in 114 games plus a 1st round goalie? Look at the number of goalies that have been drafted in the first round and how many misses there are.

It would be a terrible trade for the Wings to make.

Love mantha, he's great. But new contract is an issue with skinner and Dahlin coming, plus signing reinhart this year. As to not knowing how great he is maybe give him a chance, he doesn't have mantha's size but mantha was just entering the league at his age. He could still easily turn into a nice 2c. And your getting 8th overall? Does detroit need mantha i mean whens the playoffs again 3-4 years tops he'll be 30 still good i bet but window closing, holtz and mitts could be tearing up the league. Thats where im coming from.

Him being a RFA doesn't mean much to the Sabres, yes they would have control to match an offer sheet, but the issue itself would be the cap hit the new contract would be. Say he got traded to Buffalo, a team that is imposing an internal cap of somewhere in the low 70 million range, and Mantha's agent shops around for deals and he gets one and the Sabres can't match because of Eichel's $10 million and Skinners $9 (not to mention having to sign Reinhart and Olofsson). It makes no sense for the Sabres to trade 8th overall for someone who isn't under contract.

...but they need both right-handed and left-handed shooters. They have many right-handers that are NHL ready like: Filip Hronek, Moritz Seider, and Gustav Lindstrom. And others that are in development: Antti Tuomisto, Gustav Berglund, (and maybe Drysdale) but the left-handers aren't so certain they all are in the development phase: Cholowski, Jared McIsaac, Albert Johansson. Unless you can get a right-hander to play off-handed you don't have the depth to trade a LHD.

But moving young prospects for a soon-to-be 32 year old on the decline when you are a rebuilding team...not to mention a 7M x 3 yrs cap hit for only a 2nd rounder? Not a good deal.

My problem isn't with the Sabres end of this trade as they could easily match and go over the cap by 10% like is allowed in the off-season and then move him to another team for at worst a future pick in the 2021 draft. It would be the Wings giving up a 35-40 goal scorer for a guy that hasn't hit 20 goals in 114 career games plus a pick to take a 1st round goalie (which oftentimes don't turn out to be top of the line starters--even when picked in the top 11 see Jack Campbell as a recent example).

It's a bad trade for Detroit--not Buffalo. Cap issues can be solved by offering teams sweetners to take bad contracts. And a 35-40 goal scoring sniper power forward who just turned 26 this month would be the ultimate sweetner.

His name is Wingsfan

I was being oblique.

Do i think mantha ends up getting traded? No , but just because he bought a house doesnt mean he wont get moved . If yzerman wants to get into the top 10 again what do we have to get in there? Its either mantha/larkin , he has no loyalty to these players i just threw out that idea incase he liked askarov but that being said it wouldnt shock me at all if he just picked askarov at 4 even though some fans would be upset

As for mittlestadt , hes 21 figured a change of scenery might help him + we’re in need of a 2c and 8th pick for mantha wouldnt be enough alone and ciuldnt see them trading cozens

Deep d draft in 2021 as well where we can get a good d pick , jvr can still get 45-55 pts so i dont think flyers will just give him away for nothing, he wouldni doubt be trade bait down the road