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Créé par: armer918
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 sept. 2020
Publié: 27 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
21 250 000 $
33 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
68 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
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TOR
  1. Manson, Josh (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Rakell, Rickard (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
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4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
5.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $76 630 556 $0 $0 $4 869 444 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 463 139 $1 463 139 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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821 667 $821 667 $
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RFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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G
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 22
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 23
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Rackell has a better AAV than Nylander but signed for half the length.

Let's say Rackell with retention is worth Nylander.

How do you explain the rest of that trade? Manson with retention and Boston's first for Dermott?

Id rather Holl than zadorov.

On what planet is having Greg McKegg as our 3C a good idea?

I really would rather not waste the first we can't get and liljegren for 2 years of Kuemper
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 25
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There is a limit to retained salaries. 3 per team. For that reason the ducks only retain on 1 contract. So 2m on Manson.

You will not be happy with that trade when it is said and done.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 30
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Ducks don’t retain on Rakell. His contract is dirt cheap. Manson + 1st is enough for Nylander because it gives cap relief for Toronto letting them get money for big name FA’s
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: BCAPP
Rackell has a better AAV than Nylander but signed for half the length.

Let's say Rackell with retention is worth Nylander.

How do you explain the rest of that trade? Manson with retention and Boston's first for Dermott?

Id rather Holl than zadorov.

On what planet is having Greg McKegg as our 3C a good idea?

I really would rather not waste the first we can't get and liljegren for 2 years of Kuemper


Lol... thinking Rackell is worth nylander. Do leafs fans watch games from the west?

Last duscussion I had was a combo of nylander and liljegren for Manson 50% retained Rackell and 6oa.

Rackell even retained is simply not worth nylander.

Seems like most leafs fans haven’t seen a ducks game since 17/18 when they were both good...
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 31
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Ducks don’t retain on Rakell. His contract is dirt cheap. Manson + 1st is enough for Nylander because it gives cap relief for Toronto letting them get money for big name FA’s


No, Manson and a late first does not equal nylander...
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 32
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No, Manson and a late first does not equal nylander...


Rakell Manson and a 1st doesn’t equal Nylander either. Rakell Manson and a 1st is worth more.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 32
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Quoting: BCAPP
Rackell has a better AAV than Nylander but signed for half the length.

Let's say Rackell with retention is worth Nylander.

How do you explain the rest of that trade? Manson with retention and Boston's first for Dermott?

Id rather Holl than zadorov.

On what planet is having Greg McKegg as our 3C a good idea?

I really would rather not waste the first we can't get and liljegren for 2 years of Kuemper


Let's not say that...
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
Ducks don’t retain on Rakell. His contract is dirt cheap. Manson + 1st is enough for Nylander because it gives cap relief for Toronto letting them get money for big name FA’s


The Ducks own 1st maybe.
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27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 36
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Rakell Manson and a 1st doesn’t equal Nylander either. Rakell Manson and a 1st is worth more.


I would say that value is close.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 37
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Lol... thinking Rackell is worth nylander. Do leafs fans watch games from the west?

Last duscussion I had was a combo of nylander and liljegren for Manson 50% retained Rackell and 6oa.

Rackell even retained is simply not worth nylander.

Seems like most leafs fans haven’t seen a ducks game since 17/18 when they were both good...


Rackell over the last two seasons has 33 goals and 85 points in 134 gp while being a positive possession player playing with ****tier players than Nylander

Nylander has 38 goals and 86 points in 112 games played. He is also a plus possession player but given soft zone starts with better players.

I suppose he's better but Rackell literally makes half as much and given how tight our cap is that has value
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 38
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I would say that value is close.


With the retention on both it plus a prospect like Tracey would equal Marner imo not Nylander.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 41
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With the retention on both it plus a prospect like Tracey would equal Marner imo not Nylander.


There would be no retention on rackell. 2m retained on Manson. Add the late Boston pick and I would personally say no.

Leafs could sign Demelo for nothing and keep nylander and have two superior players at each position.
27 sept. 2020 à 22 h 51
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Rackell over the last two seasons has 33 goals and 85 points in 134 gp while being a positive possession player playing with ****tier players than Nylander

Nylander has 38 goals and 86 points in 112 games played. He is also a plus possession player but given soft zone starts with better players.

I suppose he's better but Rackell literally makes half as much and given how tight our cap is that has value


Cherry picking at it’s finest.
Better include nylanders ****ty season.

Rackell does not drive play like nylander. You actually have to watch the player and not just look at stats. Especially. If you have to neglect things like age and term. Do you seriously think nylander is going to be a 40 point player when he is 27?
27 sept. 2020 à 23 h 12
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Cherry picking at it’s finest.
Better include nylanders ****ty season.

Rackell does not drive play like nylander. You actually have to watch the player and not just look at stats. Especially. If you have to neglect things like age and term. Do you seriously think nylander is going to be a 40 point player when he is 27?


Rackell was only a "40 point player" because of games played. Is Nylander a 27 point player?

Okay you state I'm cherry picking by using 2 years ago, would your prefer to use the last 3?

Rackell has 67 goals and 154 points in 211 GP
Nylander has 68 goals and 147 points in 204 GP

I am not trying to undersell Nylander I'm a big fan, I just think you're underselling Rackell
28 sept. 2020 à 1 h 22
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Rackell was only a "40 point player" because of games played. Is Nylander a 27 point player?

Okay you state I'm cherry picking by using 2 years ago, would your prefer to use the last 3?

Rackell has 67 goals and 154 points in 211 GP
Nylander has 68 goals and 147 points in 204 GP

I am not trying to undersell Nylander I'm a big fan, I just think you're underselling Rackell


How about we just go by last season. Rackell seems to be trending that direction anyway. Since we don’t have a time machine to bring back 30 goal Rackell.

Why are you so obsessed with digging farther into his past? Nylander is younger more skilled and puts up more points. He drives play and possession. He’s also signed twice as long.

Watched enough ducks games to see that neither Rackell or Manson will be parts of the rebuild.

People get the idea that two 40 point players are as good as one 80 point player and that is simply not how it works. High end talent that drives play is very hard to come by.
28 sept. 2020 à 1 h 28
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How about we just go by last season. Rackell seems to be trending that direction anyway. Since we don’t have a time machine to bring back 30 goal Rackell.

Why are you so obsessed with digging farther into his past? Nylander is younger more skilled and puts up more points. He drives play and possession. He’s also signed twice as long.

Watched enough ducks games to see that neither Rackell or Manson will be parts of the rebuild.

People get the idea that two 40 point players are as good as one 80 point player and that is simply not how it works. High end talent that drives play is very hard to come by.


Why am I so obsessed with digging into the past? It's all we have to predict the future,...
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Why am I so obsessed with digging into the past? It's all we have to predict the future,...


Great... look at last weeks winning lotto numbers and get me this weeks. I will share... promise.

You are the one trying to bring up stats. I watch Rackell play. I think he is good. I think his contract is good. I also know that trading nylander for him is a loss. One that a late first 99/100 times won’t fix.

Just my opinions though. You are completely entitled to yours.
 
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