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67million dollar contender

Créé par: Eli
Équipe: 2020-21 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 27 sept. 2020
Publié: 27 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Marner's compensation is mostly signing bonuses in July. Same with Andersen. Their combined salary for this season, through June, is $1.7 million.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mitchell-marner

So spare me your nonsense about how broke the ownership group is. They can 100% afford to do this, as a rental. Can this team with the Stanley Cup?

The cap hit before the Leafs trade says $67.7M. That's about what this team costs, for this year.

If it's not a contender, what could be better without raising the budget? If it is a contender, how do you get the trades to go through, without wrecking Ottawa's future?

Does winning the Cup in 2021 get this team profitable enough to spend $70M on salaries the next season, keeping Marner?

Or if this is just one shot at greatness, where do they trade Marner next June, and for what?
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54 000 000 $
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21 500 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
66 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Lundqvist, Henrik (4 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
half retained because the Rangers want to develop Georgiev and Shesterkin. The right goalie for Ottawa because they are all in for a Cup this year
NYR
  1. Anisimov, Artem
Détails additionnels:
Plays well with Panarin. Let's the Rangers move Strome to line three with a UFA winger and spread out the offense.
2.
OTT
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Needs ice time to score points. Isn't getting that behind Duchene and Johansen.
NSH
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
$6,000,000 in cap space and actual money. You're welcome, Nashville.
3.
OTT
  1. Hjalmarsson, Niklas
ARI
  1. Gáborík, Marián
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa adds a pick if the Gaborik contract is uninsured. If it's insured, they're just renting Hjalmarsson for actual money, while letting Arizona cut costs.
4.
OTT
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
  3. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  4. Marner, Mitchell
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Marner makes $700k this year. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mitchell-marner
Andersen makes $1M this year.
Demott and Bracco likely combine for more salary than those two, through June. Total around $3.5M. But they move way, way up in the draft and they pocket $12.4M in cap space, allowing them to easily sign Pietrangelo, and still maybe pick up Ennis or someone average at 3C to push Kerfoot to wing, or just sign Pietrangelo with cap left over to save up for a Rielly extension.
TOR
  1. Nilsson, Anders
  2. Wolanin, Christian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
$3.3M salary going to Toronto, so Sens only take on $200k in salary to get four decent players, but they move back in the draft, and two of the new guys are just rentals.
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $70 515 500 $0 $2 500 000 $10 984 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Tkachuk, Brady
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 1
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White, Colin
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
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Brown, Connor
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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Hawryluk, Jayce
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Duclair, Anthony
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Paul, Nicholas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Turris, Kyle
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Bracco, Jeremy
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Granlund, Mikael
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Tierney, Chris
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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Chlapik, Filip
900 000 $900 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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Hjalmarsson, Niklas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Lundqvist, Henrik
-2 750 000 $-2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Hainsey, Ron
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA
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Anderson, Craig
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Borowiecki, Mark
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 27
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Not a contender imo
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: csick
Not a contender imo


That centre depth is yikes
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 30
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Um just what? Most of these contracts are unrealistic and the trades are too.
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 32
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What a joke neither Lundqvist of Hjalmarsson aren waiving their NMCs for Ottawa, Guess you missed the memo where Hjalmarsson said he'd not waive his NMC. And you basically just made the team worse.
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: csick
Not a contender imo


Depends if he meant contender for another top 5 pick.
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
What a joke neither Lundqvist of Hjalmarsson aren waiving their NMCs for Ottawa, Guess you missed the memo where Hjalmarsson said he'd not waive his NMC. And you basically just made the team worse.


When teams tell guys that they won't get to play there anymore, guys waive NMCs all the time. Marner, Turris, and Andersen don't have NMC's. Once Ottawa gets them, it seems likely that playing there would be more appealing than not playing.

You're saying I made the team worse by trading Nilsson, Wolanin, and Anisimov? Or by adding two 50 point centers, a 90 point wing, one of the best defensive defensemen in the league, and two starting goalies?
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 41
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That centre depth is yikes


Your comment is "yikes."

I kept every center they have,* and added two guys with 60 point seasons at center. Or is "yikes" a compliment in Montreal? We don't really say that in Flyover.

*except Anisimov. FIne. Is Anisimov that much better than Mikael Granlund and Kyle Turris, or are we enjoying Brunch too much?
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: Eli
Your comment is "yikes."

I kept every center they have,* and added two guys with 60 point seasons at center. Or is "yikes" a compliment in Montreal? We don't really say that in Flyover.

*except Anisimov. FIne. Is Anisimov that much better than Mikael Granlund and Kyle Turris, or are we enjoying Brunch too much?


Turris = 40 pt scorer = Granlund = Anisimov = Tierney
All are 40 pt scorers
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 50
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That Leafs trade is insane. Take out the first rounder and it's fair.
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: csick
Not a contender imo


I don't think they're a top ten team, but I think they definitely make the playoffs behind a carousel of three good starting goalies, and then Hjalmarsson and Lundqvist shut opponents down enough that if Marner and Tkachuk just get a point a game, each, they might sneak through.
27 sept. 2020 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Turris = 40 pt scorer = Granlund = Anisimov = Tierney
All are 40 pt scorers


Nonsense. Turris is a 64 point center who only gets 40 points in Nashville because Nasville only has 3C or 2L ice-time for him. Granlund is the same. If Domi doesn't get 70 points a year at 3C and 2L in Montreal, does he stop being a 70 point center? If you want to knock Granlund, Turris, or Domi, all you have to say is "defense," but pretending they don't score points is just silly.
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 0
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Quoting: EnvironmentalTwister
That Leafs trade is insane. Take out the first rounder and it's fair.


Then take out Pietrangelo, though.
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Eli
Nonsense. Turris is a 64 point center who only gets 40 points in Nashville because Nasville only has 3C or 2L ice-time for him. Granlund is the same. If Domi doesn't get 70 points a year at 3C and 2L in Montreal, does he stop being a 70 point center? If you want to knock Granlund, Turris, or Domi, all you have to say is "defense," but pretending they don't score points is just silly.


Turris has gotten <40 pts for the past 3 years
Granlund just didn't fit in with NSH.
Domi got 70 because he got 30 goals. He won't do that again.
27 sept. 2020 à 12 h 13
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If it's not a contender, what could be better without raising the budget? If it is a contender, how do you get the trades to go through, without wrecking Ottawa's future?
27 sept. 2020 à 13 h 57
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Um just what? Most of these contracts are unrealistic and the trades are too.


Someone just posted a link to some expert projections on contract values. I got each one within 1M except Hainsey, who I honestly don't think Ottawa re-signs, and I'm not positive another team pays him based on performance at his age. Read 'em and weep. https://thehockeycode.com/nhl-contract-projections-2020/
 
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