Forums/NHL Trades

(NYR/DET) - Staal and 2021 2nd RD pick for future considerations

Who won the trade?
Le graphique a été masqué

Options de sondage


26 sep 2020 à 21 h 23
#26
GM67
Rejoint: jui 2015
Messages: 647
Mentions "j'aime": 293
Quoting: justaBoss
NYR saved huge amount of cap without giving up anything too significant.

I'll say they won the trade.


They gave up something MASSIVELY Significant. A SECOND ROUND PICK! That's big time. I'd take that all day long if I was Detroit. Yzerman SCORES again.
Boubou79 a aimé ceci.
26 sep 2020 à 21 h 26
#27
Work smart, not hard
Rejoint: oct 2017
Messages: 19,275
Mentions "j'aime": 10,479
Quoting: jasondomitrovic
They gave up something MASSIVELY Significant. A SECOND ROUND PICK! That's big time. I'd take that all day long if I was Detroit. Yzerman SCORES again.


Lol
26 sep 2020 à 21 h 31
#28
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 118
Mentions "j'aime": 117
Wonder where Jordan will end up now. Jk
26 sep 2020 à 21 h 54
#29
AwesomeMatthews
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 1,381
Mentions "j'aime": 1,000
Marc Staal Welcome To Hell.
26 sep 2020 à 22 h 02
#30
Formerly Jamiepo
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 17,581
Mentions "j'aime": 9,057
Quoting: GabeVilardiFanAccount
See the Marleau dump from the Leafs costing them a 1st last season. If teams are desperate enough to free up cap space (not necessarily the case for New York here), other teams can very well take advantage of that and demand a higher price than usual.

It’s not exactly off-the-wall to think Staal could’ve costed the Rangers a 1st if they were in any more on a predicament.


Marleau had to be bought out with no cap savings. Slightly different situation with the multi year 35+ contract.

What was suppose to be a late 1st and an early 2nd seems about right for the difference in cap and situation.
26 sep 2020 à 23 h 00
#31
Dumb trades are easy
Rejoint: jan 2017
Messages: 2,983
Mentions "j'aime": 1,594
Buying a 2nd for $4.2M doesn't make any sense.

I guess DET still see some upside in Staal's game and will play him instead of buting him out.
26 sep 2020 à 23 h 44
#32
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,222
Quoting: jpsnow13
Buying a 2nd for $4.2M doesn't make any sense.

I guess DET still see some upside in Staal's game and will play him instead of buting him out.


It also helps Detroit make the salary floor. These owners are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. 4 Million is peanuts for a 2nd round pick to them
27 sep 2020 à 2 h 28
#33
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 3,431
Mentions "j'aime": 1,531
Quoting: Wqrrior
Sets the price range of other cap dumps.


NYR was in no Cap troubles and with no "Big names" to re-sign, so i think some other Teams like ARI, STL, VGK, TBL and NYI ( maybe CHI ) will need to offer more.....

Thats more re-build move then Cap shed......
27 sep 2020 à 2 h 48
#34
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 7,587
Mentions "j'aime": 2,538
Quoting: Laudan
NYR was in no Cap troubles and with no "Big names" to re-sign, so i think some other Teams like ARI, STL, VGK, TBL and NYI ( maybe CHI ) will need to offer more.....

Thats more re-build move then Cap shed......


Strome and DeAngelo would make more than NYR had in cap space. And even then, that doesn't fill their roster. So to a fair extent, they did need to clear cap.
27 sep 2020 à 3 h 04
#35
Pre-Med Pain.
Rejoint: oct 2018
Messages: 15,282
Mentions "j'aime": 5,051
Quoting: Trickster
About what I thought it would take for Rangers to move Staal, the big bonus on this trade which makes it a win for Winga is what they are giving


Future considerations, likely means low low pick.


I thought that mean't a placeholder for essentially nothing?
27 sep 2020 à 3 h 30
#36
Felicenapoli93
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 180
Mentions "j'aime": 72
Quoting: aedoran
If Staal with 1 season left and Cap Hit $5.7M is worth a 2nd. So how much it take to move Seabrook?


Marc Staal signing bonus was payed already, you basically pay him 3.2 for one season or get the chance to buy him out (doubt it but there's a possibility). Seabrook still has 4 years of contract worth near the value of his cap space in real money. There's absolutley no chance you get to move him now
27 sep 2020 à 3 h 43
#37
Rejoint: déc 2017
Messages: 11,623
Mentions "j'aime": 5,003
Quoting: Fel93
Marc Staal signing bonus was payed already, you basically pay him 3.2 for one season or get the chance to buy him out (doubt it but there's a possibility). Seabrook still has 4 years of contract worth near the value of his cap space in real money. There's absolutley no chance you get to move him now


Wow you completely missed what I was saying. I'm a Wing's fan and I was responding to a comment made by a Blackhawks insinuating that the Wings should now take Seabrooks contract.
27 sep 2020 à 3 h 48
#38
Felicenapoli93
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 180
Mentions "j'aime": 72
Quoting: aedoran
Wow you completely missed what I was saying. I'm a Wing's fan and I was responding to a comment made by a Blackhawks insinuating that the Wings should now take Seabrooks contract.


Ya, it was just to say that Seabrook contract is almost impossible to move. The "you" was generic, It's not about the team you support
27 sep 2020 à 7 h 44
#39
Rejoint: avr 2018
Messages: 243
Mentions "j'aime": 129
Haha the Laughs gave up a first
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 13
#40
Not JoshAnderson17
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 8,830
Mentions "j'aime": 2,655
Imma say NYR wins the trade. They'll prolly be contenders next year so that'll be a mid second. I was expecting a high second or low first
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 47
#41
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,222
Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I thought that mean't a placeholder for essentially nothing?


It is. The condition is something stupid like Yzerman will buy NYR's GM a beer or something
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 48
#42
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,222
Quoting: DDoverChucky
Haha the Laughs gave up a first


Not even just a 1st, they gave up 13th overall

Kapanen
13th Overall

For

15th Overall
Patrick Marleau


OOF
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 48
#43
Pre-Med Pain.
Rejoint: oct 2018
Messages: 15,282
Mentions "j'aime": 5,051
Quoting: HabsForEver
It is. The condition is something stupid like Yzerman will buy NYR's GM a beer or something


Lol. I wonder if there's actually a stipulation where we get an actual asset.
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 49
#44
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,222
Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Lol. I wonder if there's actually a stipulation where we get an actual asset.


Doubt it, Usually it would be a conditional pick if that were the case. Could be a player named later but that's very unlikely
27 sep 2020 à 9 h 51
#45
Pre-Med Pain.
Rejoint: oct 2018
Messages: 15,282
Mentions "j'aime": 5,051
Quoting: HabsForEver
Doubt it, Usually it would be a conditional pick if that were the case. Could be a player named later but that's very unlikely


When would we find out if that was the case you think?
27 sep 2020 à 10 h 09
#46
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,222
Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
When would we find out if that was the case you think?


I don't think there is a time limit to it. Could be at draft or FA
27 sep 2020 à 10 h 51
#47
Rejoint: jun 2015
Messages: 198
Mentions "j'aime": 96
Somebody go back and look at Marc Staal trades to see how off all of us genius AGMs were. Ha
HabsForEver a aimé ceci.
27 sep 2020 à 12 h 07
#48
Rejoint: jan 2020
Messages: 6,840
Mentions "j'aime": 1,586
Both teams win this trade.

NYR get some help with their terrible cap situation so they don't have to do buyouts. Detroit picks up what will likely be a mid 2nd round pick and a 3rd pairing veteran defenceman.
27 sep 2020 à 17 h 41
#49
Rejoint: jun 2017
Messages: 281
Mentions "j'aime": 30
both teams got what they needed, rangers needed cap space .. wings needed picks .. stevie will flip staal at the deadline for more assets.. both win.. next on the choping block for NY brendan smith.. they can always send him back to the ahl .. have done it several times..
27 sep 2020 à 17 h 58
#50
Rejoint: jun 2017
Messages: 281
Mentions "j'aime": 30
can anyone say pietrangelo to the rangers . 7 yrs @ 63m
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Soumettre les modifications du sondage