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Buying Out Bobby Ryan Made No Sense

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Équipe: 2020-21 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2020
Publié: 26 sept. 2020
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They should have just let him play out the last 2 years of his contract. This just shows the Sens won't be taking on contracts for picks.
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26 sept. 2020 à 1 h 9
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Makes sense when you consider his NMC and required protection in the expansion draft next summer.
26 sept. 2020 à 1 h 20
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They're preparing for cap dumps this offseason
26 sept. 2020 à 1 h 21
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They're preparing for cap dumps this offseason


You know who the owner is right?
26 sept. 2020 à 8 h 36
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I agree. It pissed me off actually. To have such an advantage and not use it... I really hope they prove us wrong
26 sept. 2020 à 8 h 36
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Makes sense when you consider his NMC and required protection in the expansion draft next summer.


He didn't have to be protected in expansion
26 sept. 2020 à 9 h 25
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He didn't have to be protected in expansion


I didn't check out his NMC before they removed him from Sens roster but if it was a full NMC. They kind of did have to protect him. Never I mind I found a version of it was a full NMC.

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No Movement Clause (NMC)

No Movement means the player cannot be waived, assigned to minors, or traded without approval. This also means they cannot be exposed in an Expansion Draft and must be protected.
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26 sept. 2020 à 10 h 9
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I like this deal for NYI.
26 sept. 2020 à 13 h 49
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He didn't have to be protected in expansion


Yes he did. He had a full NMC with a mNTC. Same as Phaneuf's contract.
26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 0
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I didn't check out his NMC before they removed him from Sens roster but if it was a full NMC. They kind of did have to protect him. Never I mind I found a version of it was a full NMC.

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No Movement Clause (NMC)

No Movement means the player cannot be waived, assigned to minors, or traded without approval. This also means they cannot be exposed in an Expansion Draft and must be protected.


Quoting: tkecanuck341
Yes he did. He had a full NMC with a mNTC. Same as Phaneuf's contract.


Couldn't they have bought him out after the season and before the expansion draft? That way they'd pay him for 3 seasons instead of 4.
26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Couldn't they have bought him out after the season and before the expansion draft? That way they'd pay him for 3 seasons instead of 4.[/quote]

Yes, they could've.

They bought him out because Melnyk pays him less money
26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 16
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Couldn't they have bought him out after the season and before the expansion draft? That way they'd pay him for 3 seasons instead of 4.


He's not a part of the team's future, and the Sens don't really care about the cap space. This way, they only have to pay him 2/3 of this season's salary instead of the entire thing.

If there was no expansion draft next season, or if Ryan didn't have a NMC, I suspect they would have just let him finish out his contract. Since they were going to have to buy him out anyway, might as well do it now and save some $$$.
26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 47
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
He's not a part of the team's future, and the Sens don't really care about the cap space. This way, they only have to pay him 2/3 of this season's salary instead of the entire thing.

If there was no expansion draft next season, or if Ryan didn't have a NMC, I suspect they would have just let him finish out his contract. Since they were going to have to buy him out anyway, might as well do it now and save some $$$.


That doesn't make sense. They have plenty of cap space so they should have kept him as long as possible so that the buyout wouldn't carry forward into the years that they would be competitors. Only way this makes sense is if they don't plan on competing in the next 4 years.
26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 48
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Couldn't they have bought him out after the season and before the expansion draft? That way they'd pay him for 3 seasons instead of 4.


Yes, they could've.

They bought him out because Melnyk pays him less money[/quote]

Melnyk is terrible lol.
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26 sept. 2020 à 15 h 53
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That doesn't make sense. They have plenty of cap space so they should have kept him as long as possible so that the buyout wouldn't carry forward into the years that they would be competitors. Only way this makes sense is if they don't plan on competing in the next 4 years.


Ottawa isn't a cap team, so they don't really care how long the cap hit is on the books. Since they bought him out, they only owe him 2/3 of his remaining salary. If they bought him out next summer, they would have had to pay him 100% of his salary for 2020-21, and 2/3 of his contract for 2021-22 (i.e. more). Buying him out now instead of next summer saves Melnyk $1.83M in cash.
26 sept. 2020 à 21 h 33
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Yes he did. He had a full NMC with a mNTC. Same as Phaneuf's contract.


Incorrect. His NMC was worded just so he couldn't be sent to the minors.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.silversevensens.com/platform/amp/2016/12/17/13933090/weekly-question-should-bobby-ryan-be-exposed-ottawa-senators-nhl
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Quoting: Rokk
I didn't check out his NMC before they removed him from Sens roster but if it was a full NMC. They kind of did have to protect him. Never I mind I found a version of it was a full NMC.

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No Movement Clause (NMC)

No Movement means the player cannot be waived, assigned to minors, or traded without approval. This also means they cannot be exposed in an Expansion Draft and must be protected.


Yes but his wording made it so he can be exposed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.silversevensens.com/platform/amp/2016/12/17/13933090/weekly-question-should-bobby-ryan-be-exposed-ottawa-senators-nhl
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27 sept. 2020 à 6 h 41
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Yes but his wording made it so he can be exposed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.silversevensens.com/platform/amp/2016/12/17/13933090/weekly-question-should-bobby-ryan-be-exposed-ottawa-senators-nhl[/quote]

Good to know thanks for the info. smile
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