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The case to fire GMJR

Créé par: myteam
Date de création initiale: 25 sept. 2020
Publié: 25 sept. 2020
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
Just a few reasons why GMJR must be fired ASAP
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan13 000 000 $
Murray, Matt15 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Schultz, Justin1700 000 $
Hall, Taylor1700 000 $
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PIT
    Too much money, too many years for a marginal 3rd line player
    WPG
    1. Tanev, Brandon
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    PIT
      Should have been fired over this signing. A one year league minimum contract would have prudent
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      1. Johnson, Jack
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      PIT
        Had the Pens not signed PH to a regrettable contract, would have never had to make this trade to correct a huge mistake
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        1. Matheson, Michael
        2. Sceviour, Colton
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        PIT
          Could have been/ should have been traded after having a great year in 16-17.
          EDM
          1. Schultz, Justin
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          PIT
          1. 2020 1e round pick (PIT)
          Not worth a 1st round pick in a deep draft!!!!!!!!
          TOR
          1. Kapanen, Kasperi
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          PIT
          1. 2020 1e round pick (NSH)
          Trade him for a high pick!!
          NSH
          1. Rust, Bryan
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          PIT
          1. 2021 2e round pick (VGK)
          Should have traded MAF or bought him out prior to expansion. Gave up a 2nd round pick over poor management skills
          VGK
            8.
            PIT
              Could have had TAYLOR HALL for Olli Matta!!!!!
              And traded what is Matt Brazal for Dave Perron!!!
              EDM
              1. Hall, Taylor
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              • Nick Bjugstad: 2 050 000 $ (50%)
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              25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 56
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              ahem, don't forget there was a good C prospect, an NHL roster player RFA, and a top AHL vet dman that will mentor our youth included in that trade as well smile

              sry, we don't have much to cheer about as leafs fans so I'm enjoying this while I can
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              25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 56
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              Ok, i see what u don't like. Now pls make the decisions for the future (don't panic, just virtual) and in 4 years we'll sit together and discuss them. Have fun and don't rage on :P
              25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 57
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              Bruh he gave up a first round pick for RYAN F*CKING REAVES
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              26 sept. 2020 à 0 h 1
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              Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
              ahem, don't forget there was a good C prospect, an NHL roster player RFA, and a top AHL vet dman that will mentor our youth included in that trade as well smile

              sry, we don't have much to cheer about as leafs fans so I'm enjoying this while I can


              Dubas wins one trade... but too bad he won’t win a first round series tears of joy
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              26 sept. 2020 à 0 h 5
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              Quoting: mhockey91
              Dubas wins one trade... but too bad he won’t win a first round series tears of joy


              He's won some other trades as well

              Hyman for McKegg, Muzzin w/o surrendering a roster player, Campbell/Clifford for picks and a small 4th liner, getting out of the Zaitsev deal for one year of Ceci, not retaining on the Marleau deal then recouping the pick a year later

              tbh the only deal I'd say he's lost is the Kadri one, but nobody could've predicted a 60 point dman morphing into a useless pylon on the ice in a huge contract year frown

              I'd rather have him than GMJR grimace
              26 sept. 2020 à 0 h 9
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              Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
              He's won some other trades as well

              Hyman for McKegg, Muzzin w/o surrendering a roster player, Campbell/Clifford for picks and a small 4th liner, getting out of the Zaitsev deal for one year of Ceci, not retaining on the Marleau deal then recouping the pick a year later

              tbh the only deal I'd say he's lost is the Kadri one, but nobody could've predicted a 60 point dman morphing into a useless pylon on the ice in a huge contract year frown

              I'd rather have him than GMJR grimace



              He overpaid to dump Marleau. No denying that. And overpaid Marner. Also didn’t get enough term for Matthews. As for GMJR vs Dubas... Dubas has definitely made some better moves recently, but Rutherford is still a 3X Stanley cup winning hall of fame GM. He’s one of the great minds in hockey. I still have faith in him. People saying he’s an awful GM are just so short sighted.
              26 sept. 2020 à 0 h 15
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              Quoting: mhockey91
              He overpaid to dump Marleau. No denying that. And overpaid Marner. Also didn’t get enough term for Matthews.


              Matthews wanted 14 million for 8 years. Not sure what else to say, you give him 5 at a reasonable cap hit. Crosby and Malkin got paid bigger deals for the same term. Lots of stars sign a 5 year deal out of ELC

              better to overpay Marner than Jack Johnson or a 31 year old hornqvist ... also better to pay a first to clear cap to sign a star than pay a 1st for a 4th liner

              Quoting: mhockey91
              As for GMJR vs Dubas... Dubas has definitely made some better moves recently, but Rutherford is still a 3X Stanley cup winning hall of fame GM. He’s one of the great minds in hockey. I still have faith in him. People saying he’s an awful GM are just so short sighted.


              He just admitted in an interview with Jonathan Bombulie that he didn't realize the pens weren't gaining cap space with the matheson trade (https://twitter.com/THEChrisMack/status/1309491899074580482)

              However, no doubt he's got a great resume, deserves to be in the HoF. I wouldn't be stupid enough to seriously compare the two, one is in his second year the other is on the verge of retirement with three cup rings
              26 sept. 2020 à 0 h 20
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              Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
              better to overpay Marner than Jack Johnson or a 33 year old hornqvist ... also better to pay a first to clear cap to sign a star than pay a 1st for a 4th liner



              He just admitted in an interview with Jonathan Bombulie that he didn't realize the pens weren't gaining cap space with the matheson trade (https://twitter.com/THEChrisMack/status/1309491899074580482)

              However, no doubt he's got a great resume, deserves to be in the HoF. I wouldn't be stupid enough to seriously compare the two, one is in his second year the other is on the verge of retirement with three cup rings



              Yeah the Johnson and Hornqvist signings weren’t great. I think the trading the first for a fourth liner was in reference to the reaves deal correct? It was a bit more complicated than that, but safe to say it didn’t work out at all for pit.


              Yeah that interview was a doozie. Can’t believe he said that. Probably a good thing we actually gained cap so we can’t sign tanev though
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              26 sept. 2020 à 7 h 35
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              Quoting: Dpellz90
              Bruh he gave up a first round pick for RYAN F*CKING REAVES


              That was minor compared to this stuff. And the reality of that deal was it was moving down a few spots. But we lost Klim Kostin and Oskar Sundquist.
              26 sept. 2020 à 7 h 42
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              Quoting: TK80_Bierbaron
              Ok, i see what u don't like. Now pls make the decisions for the future (don't panic, just virtual) and in 4 years we'll sit together and discuss them. Have fun and don't rage on :P

              I never liked GMJR from day one. Great guy. HOF guy foo. I’m more of a Craig Patrick / Ray Shero guy.
               
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