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25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 28
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Forgot to do something with Dermott.

You speculating on Vegas thing? Or is that a report?
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Forgot to do something with Dermott.

You speculating on Vegas thing? Or is that a report?


report
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 30
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Leafs move Holl for a 5th only to sign over 7m in rhd.

I just don’t understand the mentality. You have a guy who can play in the top 4 for 2m and you trade him for virtually nothing.

And then the ever present unfortunate death of Dermott in the offseason.
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: Leafs_fan13
report

From who?

Is it the Friedman spitballing one 31 thoughts?
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 32
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Sorry, they cant have him, they dont have cap space and would have to destroy their depth to make the room. I have been told that this is a bad thing and vegas shouldnt do it.
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Leafs move Holl for a 5th only to sign over 7m in rhd.

I just don’t understand the mentality. You have a guy who can play in the top 4 for 2m and you trade him for virtually nothing.

And then the ever present unfortunate death of Dermott in the offseason.


He is a POS please top 4 he was on for more than Half the goal slow and is ****.
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 35
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You know, I like this but if I'm the Sharks GM I'd change the requirements to either something like "40 points and 20 goals" or "Johnsson plays at least 50 games and Sharks make the 2nd round of the playoffs" if you want our 2nd for him. We're going to need to replenish our cupboards with prospects for the future and that 2nd ain't gonna come easy.
25 sept. 2020 à 22 h 42
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He is a POS please top 4 he was on for more than Half the goal slow and is ****.


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He is a POS please top 4 he was on for more than Half the goal slow and is ****.


I truly wish that the 47 goals Holl was on for were half our goals against...

Lol, you clearly didn’t watch Hamonic this year...
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 0
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I'd do it for BUF 3rd.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 1
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Quoting: Jamiepo
From who?

Is it the Friedman spitballing one 31 thoughts?


Friedman on 31 Thoughts talking Pietrangelo: "I do think he wants to go to Vegas if he makes it. My guess is they're the team at the top of his list. And I think Vegas would do it, that's kind of the way they're wired, but they're going to have to do some other things to do it"

Sounds like Toronto is out of his picture
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25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 1
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Dermott to the Rangers again!!
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 2
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Forgot to do something with Dermott.

You speculating on Vegas thing? Or is that a report?


A lot of grandstanding in St Louis with Petro leaking negotiations. Thats a pure PR move for leverage. I dont know how people cant spot this. The Blues are gonna sign him at the last minute.

NO CHANCE HE HEADS TO TORONTO
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 3
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I truly wish that the 47 goals Holl was on for were half our goals against...

Lol, you clearly didn’t watch Hamonic this year...


Hamonic had a bad year and I agree with that, but I believe he can rebound next season

I still wouldnt mind having him but not at the cost of Holl

I made a team where actually I was able to bring in Hamonic and Demelo and still keep Holl. Sure it meant moving Kerfoot, Johnsson, and Engvall but it worked lul.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Friedman on 31 Thoughts talking Pietrangelo: "I do think he wants to go to Vegas if he makes it. My guess is they're the team at the top of his list. And I think Vegas would do it, that's kind of the way they're wired, but they're going to have to do some other things to do it"

Sounds like Toronto is out of his picture


Caveats are key. “I think” “my guess”.

I think there will be 3-4 teams very hard on it. Including the blues.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 6
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Caveats are key. “I think” “my guess”.

I think there will be 3-4 teams very hard on it. Including the blues.


This report comes from Elliotte Friedman. When he spits something out, 99% of the time is right
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 8
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Hamonic had a bad year and I agree with that, but I believe he can rebound next season

I still wouldnt mind having him but not at the cost of Holl

I made a team where actually I was able to bring in Hamonic and Demelo and still keep Holl. Sure it meant moving Kerfoot, Johnsson, and Engvall but it worked lul.


Then why bring in hamonic?

1. I can’t see him signing here. He wants to be out west
2. He’s not a guy dubas likes
3. Holl was better last year and half the price at least.

In fact Holl was a lot better than many leafs trade targets on here. I think leaf fans don’t wTch enough games out west.

Leafs need to add one good rhd or nothing at all. They certainly don’t need to trade any.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 12
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Then why bring in hamonic?

1. I can’t see him signing here. He wants to be out west
2. He’s not a guy dubas likes
3. Holl was better last year and half the price at least.

In fact Holl was a lot better than many leafs trade targets on here. I think leaf fans don’t wTch enough games out west.

Leafs need to add one good rhd or nothing at all. They certainly don’t need to trade any.


I did it so the dcore can have some major depth. Plus i like Hamonic and I feel he and rielly could do some damage. The other guy I would not mind to get his Braun. In general this allows for toronto to be good even with injuries because should someone get injured (say Hamonic) Demelo can go with Rielly, Holl back with Muzzin and either sandin, liligren, or rosen can be the filler.

Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Demelo
Lehtonen-Holl

And managed to save 1mill in cap and if leafs protect (Rielly,Demelo,Muzzin) Seattle can take Holl or Hamonic giving us room for a freddie and Hyman extension

The other idea was trade for Demers (arizona retains) and we use him as a rental than move on with liligren potentially being ready by 2022. But from what im hearing everyone could be on the table so who knows Dubas could go in on a Chycrun deal.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 12
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
This report comes from Elliotte Friedman. When he spits something out, 99% of the time is right


Bahahaha... no it is not. His opinions are wrong about as much as random chance. Or typically anyone else in this site.

I mean yeah, Vegas is a great fit for petro and vice versa. Does that mean he’s going to Vegas? Or that the blues won’t sign him? Or that teams line philly Calgary leafs and stars are out if the running? Certainly not.

It doesn’t take much more than a quick thumb through his 31 thoughts to see that his opinion is just that. Certainly an informed opinion. If he has inside info he lets it be known. That is money in the bank.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 24
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I did it so the dcore can have some major depth. Plus should someone get injured (say Hamonic) Demelo can go with Rielly, Holl back with Muzzin and either sandin, liligren, or rosen can be the filler.

Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Demelo
Lehtonen-Holl

And managed to save 1mill in cap and if leafs protect (Rielly,Demelo,Muzzin) Seattle can take Holl or Hamonic giving us room for a freddie and Hyman extension

The other idea was trade for Demers (arizona retains) and we use him as a rental than move on with liligren potentially being ready by 2022.

Did Dermott die or is he the one you fired into the sun for less than his value to the leafs?

Muzzin-Holl
Rielly-lehtonen
Dermott-

Leafs have 3 perfectly fine nhl replacement players not on this list and 3m to spend. Assuming Dermott Signs his QO and Mikheyev takes 1.75m.

Dubas will probably get some more league min depth for the blueline that can jump in as well.

Me personally, if the deal isn’t there add Lilly and see what happens in season. Let some cap space accrue.

If the right deal is out there add a good Dman. If you are moving Holl or Dermott it should be to acquire a sure upgrade. Not a maybe.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 26
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Did Dermott die or is he the one you fired into the sun for less than his value to the leafs?

Muzzin-Holl
Rielly-lehtonen
Dermott-

Leafs have 3 perfectly fine nhl replacement players not on this list and 3m to spend. Assuming Dermott Signs his QO and Mikheyev takes 1.75m.

Dubas will probably get some more league min depth for the blueline that can jump in as well.

Me personally, if the deal isn’t there add Lilly and see what happens in season. Let some cap space accrue.

If the right deal is out there add a good Dman. If you are moving Holl or Dermott it should be to acquire a sure upgrade. Not a maybe.


dermotts most likely getting traded. With Lehtonen being most likely taking on the 3rd pair LD and after that Sandin Dermott really does not have a spot. Sure he can play on the right but I feel Dubas wants to bring 2 experienced true top 4 guys with Holl moving down to the 3rd pairing. As for what Dubas wants back for dermott no idea.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 26
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I did it so the dcore can have some major depth. Plus i like Hamonic and I feel he and rielly could do some damage. The other guy I would not mind to get his Braun. In general this allows for toronto to be good even with injuries because should someone get injured (say Hamonic) Demelo can go with Rielly, Holl back with Muzzin and either sandin, liligren, or rosen can be the filler.

Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Demelo
Lehtonen-Holl

And managed to save 1mill in cap and if leafs protect (Rielly,Demelo,Muzzin) Seattle can take Holl or Hamonic giving us room for a freddie and Hyman extension

The other idea was trade for Demers (arizona retains) and we use him as a rental than move on with liligren potentially being ready by 2022. But from what im hearing everyone could be on the table so who knows Dubas could go in on a Chycrun deal.


Hamonic is 100% getting an NMC for the expansion.
25 sept. 2020 à 23 h 28
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dermotts most likely getting traded. With Lehtonen being the 3rd guy and Sandin coming up I feel Dubas is planning on moving Dermott. As to what he is bringing back no idea.


They may. But it will be to upgrade. Dubas is far better at managing assets then leafs fans on cap friendly.

Dermott has looked great in the top 4 and can okay the right.... so let’s trade him for a 3rd when we spent a 2nd and developed him into a competent nhler.
 
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