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Créé par: flamesfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2020
Publié: 25 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
42 000 000 $
3850 000 $
510 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
57 750 000 $
54 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
55 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Barzal, Mathew10 000 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Anyone
3.
CGY
DET
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
4.
CGY
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2021
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de BUF
Logo de CGY
Logo de BUF
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $77 728 332 $0 $947 500 $3 771 668 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
801 666 $801 666 $ (Bonis de performance65 000 $$65K)
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
G
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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25 sept. 2020 à 16 h 58
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does this mean Shea Weber is also worth a 1st and 2nd rounder? grin
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25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 1
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That Lucic contract is just so bad! I’m not sure it’s enough but we’d at least consider it..
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25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
does this mean Shea Weber is also worth a 1st and 2nd rounder? grin


If they had the same contract but Weber is making 1.5 more and is signed for six years. If they Had the same contract yes Weber would be worth a 1st and a second
25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
does this mean Shea Weber is also worth a 1st and 2nd rounder? grin


I would say yes but Weber's contract is 3 times longer.
25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 20
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I doubt Lucic waives for Detroit but at the same time Yzerman isn't going to bring Lucic to Detroit. The Wings have a young locker room and Lucic is not some one you want in a young locker room.
25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: flamesfan
If they had the same contract but Weber is making 1.5 more and is signed for six years. If they Had the same contract yes Weber would be worth a 1st and a second


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I would say yes but Weber's contract is 3 times longer.


Weber is also 2 years younger than Gio tho so who knows
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25 sept. 2020 à 17 h 57
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
Weber is also 2 years younger than Gio tho so who knows


and if I had to choose between them I choose Weber every day of the week.
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25 sept. 2020 à 18 h 1
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and if I had to choose between them I choose Weber every day of the week.


When your paying him 8 mil at 40 you’ll probably regret that choice
25 sept. 2020 à 18 h 4
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I don’t know if Lucic waves for Detroit, and I don’t know if Yzerman would take him, but the opportunity to catch a falling player in this draft at 19 would be very exciting.
25 sept. 2020 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
does this mean Shea Weber is also worth a 1st and 2nd rounder? grin


Quoting: flamesfan
If they had the same contract but Weber is making 1.5 more and is signed for six years. If they Had the same contract yes Weber would be worth a 1st and a second


Quoting: aedoran
I would say yes but Weber's contract is 3 times longer.


Quoting: TheGHANDI90
Weber is also 2 years younger than Gio tho so who knows


Quoting: flamesfan
When your paying him 8 mil at 40 you’ll probably regret that choice


Weber has 1 year left at $6M salary, then a year at $3M then 3 years at $1M... He is worth more than the 1st and 2nd you are talking about. He is still a force now, and going forward adds leadership and $4M and $6M fake money to reach the cap floor for certain teams... What cheap team owner wouldn't give a 1st + 2nd + ? for $27M dollars in real money savings over 5 years?
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25 sept. 2020 à 19 h 16
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Weber has 1 year left at $6M salary, then a year at $3M then 3 years at $1M... He is worth more than the 1st and 2nd you are talking about. He is still a force now, and going forward adds leadership and $4M and $6M fake money to reach the cap floor for certain teams... What cheap team owner wouldn't give a 1st + 2nd + ? for $27M dollars in real money savings over 5 years?


Ok but his cap hit is $7,857,143 for the next 6 years correct? Unless a change is made to his contract.
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25 sept. 2020 à 19 h 38
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Quoting: aedoran
Ok but his cap hit is $7,857,143 for the next 6 years correct? Unless a change is made to his contract.


Correct, so $7.857,143 against the cap, while only costing $6M, $3M, $1M, $1M, $1M respectively per season... For any team wanting to just barely reach the floor, thats a valuable contract. Obviously no cap strapped teams will want it. But Ottawa? Arizona? Florida?
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25 sept. 2020 à 20 h 38
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Correct, so $7.857,143 against the cap, while only costing $6M, $3M, $1M, $1M, $1M respectively per season... For any team wanting to just barely reach the floor, thats a valuable contract. Obviously no cap strapped teams will want it. But Ottawa? Arizona? Florida?


You are right and the amount teams actually make or lose has come up a bit do to the COVID-19 stoppage. I think it's safe to say most of the fans here are talking about the cap hit. LTIR comes up a lot on this site and there are a lot of ACGMs here involve LTIR even though the person posting it doesn't really understand how it works. A good percentage of users here don''t have any desire to understand the teams financials past the cap hit. Do you know how much each team made or lost last season or the year before without looking it up? I know how much the Wing's made but only because I looked it up last week for something else. Some of the teams don't care about the profit as long as they win. Look at the Wing's when they were on their Cup run there were 4 or 5 seasons where they didn't break even until the 2nd home game of the conference finals. I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying a lot of users just don't care. Now you've made me want to learn more about that aspect of the game.
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26 sept. 2020 à 11 h 15
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Weber has 1 year left at $6M salary, then a year at $3M then 3 years at $1M... He is worth more than the 1st and 2nd you are talking about. He is still a force now, and going forward adds leadership and $4M and $6M fake money to reach the cap floor for certain teams... What cheap team owner wouldn't give a 1st + 2nd + ? for $27M dollars in real money savings over 5 years?


Ya that's wild, looking at the financials of each players deal starting when they are 37yrs old (since that is what Giordano will be during his final 2yrs);

Giordano
2020-21 season: CAP HIT = 6,750,000, real $ = 6,750,000
2021-22 season: CAP HIT = 6,750,000, real $ = 6,750,000
Total $ left owed = 13,500,000

Weber
2022-23 season: CAP HIT = 7,857,143, real $ = 3,000,000
2023-24 season: CAP HIT = 7,857,143, real $ = 1,000,000
2024-25 season: CAP HIT = 7,857,143, real $ = 1,000,000
2025-26 season: CAP HIT = 7,857,143, real $ = 1,000,000
Total $ left owed = 6,000,000

So from 37 years onward for both players, Giordano is owed 13,5mil$ and Weber is owed 6mil$. Although I understand there is quite a significant difference with cap hit, Weber like @aedoran and @RobbStark03 said, will be a valued asset for a few cap floor teams not willing to spend ACTUAL money to reach the salary cap floor.
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