Canes add a lot for us to take jakey

Detroit is not doing that. Also giving up 2 good prospects to take 2 guys that Tampa needs to dump for cap is steep. They would definitely accept, but I think both of those guys could be had for 2nd rounders because they are so desperate to shed cap

yes

Too many ACGMs think Tampa will just dump Gourde and Killorn. Johnson might end up as a straight-up dump for Tampa, but there will be multiple teams interested in Killorn and Gourde.

Miller was a "dump" last year, I suppose multiple teams were interested, and Vancouver paid a first. Neither Gourde or Killorn fetch a first, but don't be so sure Tampa is not getting a return on either of them.

yeah i agree i think a second rounder each is probably fair. Killorn might get a C level prospect back as well

I wouldn't pass on this so quickly Detroit could use D on the left side. Hopefully by the end of next season Detroit's right side is Hronek (22), Seider (19) and Lindstrom (21). So a little age on the other side really wouldn't be so bad. Plus Nemeth's contract is up at the end of next season and DeKeyser recently had back surgery. Thats how I see it.

I mean as a canes fan im good to move out gardiner

I'm not sure it would happen quite like this but I do like the idea.