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Créé par: arafay

Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 24 sept. 2020

Publié: 24 sept. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

With the way heinola is playing in the liiga right now, he is going to make the jets imo. 8 points in 8 preseason games? I know it’s preseason but still, very good. I don’t want to get expectations too high, but he might have a big rookie year. I added Samberg to the roster because 1) he is ready as well and 2) he is big and makes the 3rd pairing monstrous. Just in case he isn’t ready, I resigned beaulieu as 7th d.

Now for the trades, for the time being, Danault would be a good fit in Winnipeg. 10th oa is the 2c of the future but until then, danault should be a good option that will let us contend. Anyways, chevy has apparently been after danault since he was in Chicago so he’s clearly a fan. As for the package, danault produces like a low tier 2c but his defense is very good. The market for those types of centres with an extension is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd as shown by the pageau and recent 2c rentals by the jets. Therefore, they jets send their 2021 1st, 2021 2nd, and 2021 3rd for danault signed at 5x5.5. For severson, the jets make a 3-way deal:

WPG: Gives: niku, Seuss, and 2022 2nd. Gets: Severson and Sutter
VAN: Gives virtanen and sutter. Gets: Seuss
NJD: Gives: Severson. Gets: Virtanen, Niku, 2022 2nd (WPG)

Does every team get enough? Seems pretty reasonable for all ends to me but I may be biased so comment away!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Appleton, Mason	1	700 000 $
Harkins, Jansen	2	800 000 $
Roslovic, Jack	2	2 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Beaulieu, Nathan	1	1 000 000 $
Brossoit, Laurent	1	1 000 000 $
Czarnik, Austin	1	900 000 $

Transactions

WPG

Danault, Phillip

Détails additionnels:

Signed 5.5x5

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WPG)

WPG

Sutter, Brandon
Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]

VAN

Suess, C.J. [Droits de RFA]

WPG

Severson, Damon

NJD

Niku, Sami [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

Jake Virtanen (RFA rights)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	78 370 357 $	0 $	150 000 $	3 129 643 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Ehlers, Nikolaj 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Laine, Patrik 4 995 000 $4 995 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 1
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 6	Danault, Phillip 3 083 333 $3 083 333 $ C UFA - 1	Wheeler, Blake 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 4
Copp, Andrew 2 280 000 $2 280 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam 2 916 667 $2 916 667 $ C UFA - 1	Roslovic, Jack 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
Harkins, Jansen 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Sutter, Brandon 4 375 000 $4 375 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Perreault, Mathieu 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Czarnik, Austin 900 000 $900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2		Appleton, Mason 700 000 $700 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Pionk, Neal 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 4
Heinola, Ville 894 167 $894 167 $ DG RFA - 4	Severson, Damon 4 166 666 $4 166 666 $ DD UFA - 3
Samberg, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) DG RFA - 3	Poolman, Tucker 775 000 $775 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Brossoit, Laurent 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Beaulieu, Nathan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Little, Bryan 5 291 667 $5 291 667 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 4

24 sept. 2020 à 20 h 58

Bo_Knows

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The value is there for Danault, but if the Habs trade him they'll want a player coming the other way.

24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 2

DropMcCockiner

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Quoting: Bo_Knows

The value is there for Danault, but if the Habs trade him they'll want a player coming the other way.

Exactly. Fair value but the Habs are only going to trade him if they are getting someone who helps them now

24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 10

bunzy1034

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Quoting: Bo_Knows

The value is there for Danault, but if the Habs trade him they'll want a player coming the other way.

I know he is a prospect but does Vesalainen interest you at all? he is a big scoring winger which you guys seem to be after. Or Roslovic for more immediate help, who has top 6 upside still

24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 10

MrGnarVar

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NJ Passes

Sevo is the best of the 3 NHL defenseman the Devils have, hes not getting traded. I don't really believe the rumor that things have soured but even if they have NJ doesnt have enough bodies to trade him amd wont unless the package blows them away.

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24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 13

arafay

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Quoting: MrGnarVar

Fair enough

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24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 13

arafay

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Quoting: DropMcCockiner

Exactly. Fair value but the Habs are only going to trade him if they are getting someone who helps them now

What about virtanen (as I acquired him here) and a 1st?

24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 19

Subbanator7667

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So here's the thing, you say in your description that Danaults value is the same as Pageaus, but he is better then Pageau, so his value is more then Pageau.

You add the fact that there is an extension in place and you definitely get more then what Pageau got.

24 sept. 2020 à 21 h 53

Bo_Knows

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Quoting: bunzy1034

I know he is a prospect but does Vesalainen interest you at all? he is a big scoring winger which you guys seem to be after. Or Roslovic for more immediate help, who has top 6 upside still

I think Roslovic more than Vesalainen, simply because he's more established in the NHL. Vesalainen isn't a sure thing yet.

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24 sept. 2020 à 22 h 23

arafay

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

First of all, pageau was on pace for 30+ goals and danault has never broken 20. Pageau was on pace for 51 pts while danault was on pace for 54. The difference between them is goal scoring (which is very expensive in the nhl) which is made up by Danault’s defensive ability. Most of pageau’s pts were while he was playing with far worse players than danault played with for his entire season. That was also a deadline deal so you won’t get more than that in the offseason. Therefore, danault will get about the same as pageau. I rest my case

24 sept. 2020 à 23 h 15

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Subbanator7667

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Quoting: arafay

I mean you can look at any stat except goal scoring and know Danault is better. Total points Danault, 5 on 5 points Danault, xGF, xGA, corsi, and evolving wild analytics all point to Danault being better but sure, Pageau scored more goals so must be better.

25 sept. 2020 à 0 h 46

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

First of all, value doesn’t mean who is better. 2nd goal scoring comes at a premium in the nhl. The lightning payed a mid 1st and an A prospect for a cheap 30 goal guy, so there’s a perfect example.

Danault played with the 2 best wingers in montreal all season whereas pageau played with fringe top 6 guys like brown, white, etc and with tkachuk (who was the only guy of note). I’m not saying Danault is worth less than pageau, I’m just saying that he will cost about the same to acquire. Pageau was traded for at the tdl, which makes him more expensive. Pageau’s better goal scoring and danault’s better defensemen balance each other out imo. Imo they will get the same amount right now. Now if you move danault at the tdl, you might be able to get a first + A prospect but that’s the max anyone would give for someone, when all is said and done, is a 50 pt 2c. And that’s with an extension.

Again, I’m not saying that pageau is better, I am simply saying that trading Danault now would yield about the same value. That’s just how the nhl works. Simple as that. Like i know Danault’s defensive game and possession numbers are good but goal scoring comes at a premium and in the end, they have the same production. There not much else left to say.

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