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Créé par: desertdog111
Équipe: 2020-21 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2020
Publié: 23 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Army mentioned wanting to get bigger, these trades would help with that
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
2.
ARI
  1. McBain, Jack [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
3.
ARI
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  3. Russell, Kris
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
4.
ARI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
5.
ARI
    Forfeit
    FLA
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
    6.
    ARI
    1. Rodrigues, Evan [Droits de RFA]
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
    TOR
    1. Demers, Jason (1 000 000 $ retained)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2020
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de VGK
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    2021
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    2022
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    Logo de ARI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $69 137 784 $196 951 $1 782 500 $12 362 216 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
    AG, AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    1 533 333 $1 533 333 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    735 000 $735 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    5 475 000 $5 475 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    800 000 $800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1

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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 2
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    Take out the first and Edmonton might do it
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 7
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    Quoting: sens65
    Take out the first and Edmonton might do it


    Coyotes don’t tho
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 13
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    No thanks. Zero interest in Stepan for me. We need to get younger as it is and if we acquire a C we need a long-term solution, not a rental like Stepan.
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 13
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    I am one that would love to see OEL on the Oilers but that price is too steep
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: TanSor
    No thanks. Zero interest in Stepan for me. We need to get younger as it is and if we acquire a C we need a long-term solution, not a rental like Stepan.


    Stepan could go anywhere for equivalent value I just picked Minny because I saw someone post an AGM with him listed as a potential target
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 17
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    That is a massive overpayment for Kuemper
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 18
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    Quoting: Smokingun71
    I am one that would love to see OEL on the Oilers but that price is too steep


    Agree to disagree, JP is an unknown commodity. Scoring in the Finnish league is great but he doesn’t have the best NHL track record. You guys actually decrease cap in this deal too
    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 20
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    That is a massive overpayment for Kuemper


    It’s what it’s going to take forever the Coyotes to move him tho. He’s their MVP.
    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 22
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    It’s what it’s going to take forever the Coyotes to move him tho. He’s their MVP.


    I understand the 1st but having Dube in there is like having Hayton in the trade. Keep him if thats your asking price, word is Markstrom wants to play with his best friend Lindholm anyways
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 23
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    Agree to disagree, JP is an unknown commodity. Scoring in the Finnish league is great but he doesn’t have the best NHL track record. You guys actually decrease cap in this deal too


    We decrease cap for 1 year and then we are stuck with a potentially declining 3 years of OEL at a huge cap hit.
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 25
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    Coyotes don’t tho


    Looks like you wasted your time with that trade then. To rich for oilers blood
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    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 27
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    Flames easily decline, take out dube. Flames wouldn’t trade dube for kuemper 1 for 1
    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 29
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    Yeah flames don’t touch this. Not even close
    23 sept. 2020 à 23 h 55
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    Quoting: TanSor
    No thanks. Zero interest in Stepan for me. We need to get younger as it is and if we acquire a C we need a long-term solution, not a rental like Stepan.


    Stepan as a cheap to get rental is fine with me. He's better than MarJo, Rask, and Bjugstad. Seriously MN is going into the season where Rask might be the 2nd best center on the team.
    24 sept. 2020 à 0 h 2
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    with that price, we better be getting 15-16 OEL, not 19-20 OEL
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    24 sept. 2020 à 0 h 8
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    Quoting: wabit
    Stepan as a cheap to get rental is fine with me. He's better than MarJo, Rask, and Bjugstad. Seriously MN is going into the season where Rask might be the 2nd best center on the team.


    I'm shocked you're saying this after the years we endured as fans where Fletcher perpetually demolished our prospect pool by making trades like this. We aren't winning anything with or without Stepan so there's zero reason to acquire him by using futures IMO. Just keep the picks and hope we get another Beckman or Khovanov. Brackett has had a bunch of good hits later in drafts as well.
    24 sept. 2020 à 0 h 20
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    Like the Oilers deal. I think the Yotes would need to retain like $1-$2M to help the Oilers out a little. I don't mind the pieces getting shipped out
    24 sept. 2020 à 1 h 0
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    Quoting: TanSor
    I'm shocked you're saying this after the years we endured as fans where Fletcher perpetually demolished our prospect pool by making trades like this. We aren't winning anything with or without Stepan so there's zero reason to acquire him by using futures IMO. Just keep the picks and hope we get another Beckman or Khovanov. Brackett has had a bunch of good hits later in drafts as well.


    Stepan for a 2nd, 3rd, or Donato is no big deal to me. Monahan, Domi, Danault, etc for Dumba/Brodin/1sts bothers me. I'll take the bandaide of Stepan over the tourniquet of bad trade targets being thrown around on here and by the press. I don't put much stock in picks after the top-25. They are nice but there are too many misses or fringe players are the end result. I won't lose any sleep over trading away a 2nd to make the team better.

    For all the flack Fletcher got he put some very good teams on the ice. The change in CBA, the Vegas expansion draft, and cap not growing like it was projected did him in. Unless Gurin puts a Playoff team on the ice next year he won't be here long. So far he has actively made the NHL team worse than when he took over a year ago. He's not fixing any issues, he's just hoping the kids he inherited grow up and make him look good.
    24 sept. 2020 à 4 h 12
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    Quoting: ken_holland
    with that price, we better be getting 15-16 OEL, not 19-20 OEL


    Quoting: ken_holland
    with that price, we better be getting 15-16 OEL, not 19-20 OEL


    Zero chance his best days are far behind him
    I don’t believe Edm has any interest in trading for OEL this rumour is being driven by the media his cap hit is to high and to long of term for Edm to even consider it Yotes would have to retain 2mil plus or the Yotes would have to seriously over pay to move him. 7 yrs at 8.25 broke the 50 point mark once 5 yrs ago and was a -25 that yr and has been a minus player every yr since, you can pick apart nurses defensive # but OEL are no better and nurse is 3mil cheaper and bring a edge to our blue line
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    24 sept. 2020 à 8 h 36
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    Quoting: GrinReaper
    Zero chance his best days are far behind him
    I don’t believe Edm has any interest in trading for OEL this rumour is being driven by the media his cap hit is to high and to long of term for Edm to even consider it Yotes would have to retain 2mil plus or the Yotes would have to seriously over pay to move him. 7 yrs at 8.25 broke the 50 point mark once 5 yrs ago and was a -25 that yr and has been a minus player every yr since, you can pick apart nurses defensive # but OEL are no better and nurse is 3mil cheaper and bring a edge to our blue line


    OEL is slightly better than Nurse imo, but it's a lateral move with that massive contract. And don't forget he'll be 36 when it ends.
    24 sept. 2020 à 9 h 17
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    Quoting: ken_holland
    OEL is slightly better than Nurse imo, but it's a lateral move with that massive contract. And don't forget he'll be 36 when it ends.


    That's debatable. But don't forget Nurse is 25 and OEL is 30. Even if you set that onerous contract aside, I wouldn't trade Nurse for OEL 1-for-1 just due to age.
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    24 sept. 2020 à 9 h 58
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    That's debatable. But don't forget Nurse is 25 and OEL is 30. Even if you set that onerous contract aside, I wouldn't trade Nurse for OEL 1-for-1 just due to age.


    I agree. OEL could be that dman who defies age and production and impact could remain the same in his late 30's, but that's a big if. I dont think ARI is going to get what they want for OEL and they'll end up taking pennies on the dollar, because that's all they care about
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