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Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2020
Publié: 23 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It was reported that Mike Matheson's statistics and on-ice results were extremely bad this season whenever he played with Anton Stralman (who's washed). With everyone else, he did pretty good. So if he gets paired with a smart shutdown defenceman like John Marino, they should make a solid 2nd pair. That could make Marcus Pettersson expendable as he is making 4 million dollars but will likely be on the third pair.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
33 250 000 $
21 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lundell, Anton
3925 000 $
Matheson, Mike
74 850 000 $
Sceviour, Colton
11 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Koekkoek, Slater [Droits de RFA]
CHI
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Marner, Mitchell (1 643 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
4.
PIT
    Colton Sceviour
    Mike Matheson
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    2022
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $79 550 000 $0 $850 000 $1 950 000 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    9 260 000 $9 260 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    2 940 000 $2 940 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Lundell, Anton
    925 000 $925 000 $
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Matheson, Mike
    4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Sceviour, Colton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    700 000 $700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Avantage numérique 2
    Lundell, A.
    Matheson, M.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Matheson, M.

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    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 17
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    What'd you guys think of this team?
    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 18
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    that marner trade is never happening. just when you were starting to gain some credibility again you post this? why? you clearly aren't actually an idiot since you've posted good teams before, you just REALLY hate marner for some reason. did he steal your girl or something????
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    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 18
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    Stop with jj to Chicago!!!!!!!
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    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 19
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    Marner will not be traded for such an insignificant return while retaining over $1.6m and adding a 1st.
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    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 22
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    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 24
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    Luckily no Pens fell for your stupidity here.
    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 26
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    that marner trade is never happening. just when you were starting to gain some credibility again you post this? why? you clearly aren't actually an idiot since you've posted good teams before, you just REALLY hate marner for some reason. did he steal your girl or something????


    I never said this idea was realistic. Just feel that the value is fair so I wanted to see how it works for either team.
    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 26
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    Ignoring the Marner trade, MP>Koekkoek also>>>>>Matheson
    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 27
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    I like it. Other fans won't.
    23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 32
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    back on your terrible marner trade BS eh? man that's awful
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    23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 1
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    Quoting: Beetlejuice
    Stop with jj to Chicago!!!!!!!


    But he and Seabiscuit would make an epic tandem lol
    23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 3
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I never said this idea was realistic. Just feel that the value is fair so I wanted to see how it works for either team.


    Toronto wouldn’t do Marner straight up without retention for Rust and Petterson. It would take a Kings ransom to take Marner. Especially with retention
    23 sept. 2020 à 18 h 26
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    Bro, I kno u love Marner & I do to BUT any Marner deal starts with :
    2- 1st Rdrs / Poulin / Rusty / 10- Sidney Crosby appearances / A Maple Leaf symbol on Pens Jerseys for next 5 yrs / Geno doing the play by play in Toronto for all home games / and then some

    He is a Legit Superstar Winger in NHL in his prime years, It would be like trading Kane when he was 22yrs old .... It just probably wont happen.
    23 sept. 2020 à 19 h 5
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    What'd you guys think of this team?


    Hey, man. Why do you keep making these and tagging people?
    24 sept. 2020 à 1 h 12
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    the Minny deal is solid, I'd like to move up in the draft
    24 sept. 2020 à 10 h 39
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I never said this idea was realistic. Just feel that the value is fair so I wanted to see how it works for either team.


    I don't see how the Marner trade is close. Obviously Toronto needs cap space but not that bad. I think if you take of the first from Toronto, you might at least get the ball rolling. I think Pittsburgh might need to send Murray to Pittsburgh in that deal and ask for Andersen back. Maybe like this

    Pit receives: Marner with no retention and Andersen with no retention
    Tor receives: Rust, Petterson, Murray, Simon, and the Minnesota pick
    24 sept. 2020 à 11 h 26
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    What'd you guys think of this team?


    We will never get Marner
    24 sept. 2020 à 17 h 52
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    Wow! I'm shocked to see such trade by a Leafs fan. I love Rust. He's a player which ALWAYS give 100%, specially in playoffs and he's very good on both sides. But in your trade you made him looks like a Kucherov, Pastrnak or something. As a Pens fan, I'll be enjoying this trade for my entire life. But it's much more likely to see Detroit Red Wings winning next season SC than make this trade happen. Unfortunately. @mhockey91 question makes much sense. Why do you hate Marner that much? Lol
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    24 sept. 2020 à 18 h 0
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    Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
    Wow! I'm shocked to see such trade by a Leafs fan. I love Rust. He's a player which ALWAYS give 100%, specially in playoffs and he's very good on both sides. But in your trade you made him looks like a Kucherov, Pastrnak or something. As a Pens fan, I'll be enjoying this trade for my entire life. But it's much more likely to see Detroit Red Wings winning next season SC than make this trade happen. Unfortunately. @mhockey91 question makes much sense. Why do you hate Marner that much? Lol


    hes not a leafs fan, hes a pens fan trolling to be a leafs fan. his name used to be "MikeyThePensFan" and then rebranded to troll TML fans
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    24 sept. 2020 à 18 h 3
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    hes not a leafs fan, hes a pens fan trolling to be a leafs fan. his name used to be "MikeyThePensFan" and then rebranded to troll TML fans


    Now it makes much more sense. lol
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    25 sept. 2020 à 14 h 48
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    Quoting: Dan10900
    Ignoring the Marner trade, MP>Koekkoek also>>>>>Matheson


    I figured you were gonna say this. But I checked Matheson’s stats at HbAnalytics from this season & they seemed alright? His xGA & CA per 60 were in like the 55th percentile?
    25 sept. 2020 à 14 h 49
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    back on your terrible marner trade BS eh? man that's awful


    I don’t see why the deal is awful. I’m a Leaf fan too & I’d do it. Rust & Marner are on a similar level, plus you save cap. Pettersson is a solid top 4 two way D, he goes for a 1st.
    25 sept. 2020 à 14 h 52
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    Toronto wouldn’t do Marner straight up without retention for Rust and Petterson. It would take a Kings ransom to take Marner. Especially with retention


    Thanks for the feedback. I think you are undervaluing Rust & Pettersson. Basically a top 6 Forward in excellent contract & a top 4 D for an expensive top line forward. Toronto would do it for the cap savings.

    How’d you think this Penguins team looks? Are they contender?
    25 sept. 2020 à 14 h 54
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    Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
    Wow! I'm shocked to see such trade by a Leafs fan. I love Rust. He's a player which ALWAYS give 100%, specially in playoffs and he's very good on both sides. But in your trade you made him looks like a Kucherov, Pastrnak or something. As a Pens fan, I'll be enjoying this trade for my entire life. But it's much more likely to see Detroit Red Wings winning next season SC than make this trade happen. Unfortunately. @mhockey91 question makes much sense. Why do you hate Marner that much? Lol


    Thanks for the feedback, I think the trade is close value wise. Leafs get two good players for an elite player, but they save cap which is the most important gain for them in this trade.
    25 sept. 2020 à 14 h 54
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I don’t see why the deal is awful. I’m a Leaf fan too & I’d do it. Rust & Marner are on a similar level, plus you save cap. Pettersson is a solid top 4 two way D, he goes for a 1st.


    of course you dont see why. You make it clear right here. You just said marner and rust were on a similar level. That's just wacky and not true at all, rust isnt even on the same planet as Marner. and your obsession with cap space as a substitute for actual value is near clinical.
    Oh and petterson isnt worth a 1st on his own, hes basically the Pens version of Dermott. Unless you think Dermott is worth a 1st.
     
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