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Flower to Toronto

Créé par: Juice
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2020
Publié: 23 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I know the trades would all need some work. Specifically interested from the Buffalo crowd if a Freddy/Mittelstadt base for a trade would have any legs. Maybe with some conditional pick on Freddy re-signing and/or GP for Casey? I know you wouldn't want to give up on Casey for just 1 year of Freddy so interested to see what would need to be done to make it work.

If the leafs could get 2yrs of Flower for a lower cap hit than 1 more year of Freddy...I don't mind the tradeoff. If Vegas is actually considering a buy-out, trading him and retaining $2.5 is close to a wash in years 1 and 2 saves them cap space and $$ in years 3 and 4 of the buyout.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2700 000 $
11 700 000 $
1750 000 $
1825 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
11 750 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
2.
TOR
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Rodrigues, Evan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
3.
NJD
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. Glendening, Luke
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 513 116 $0 $0 $3 986 884 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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821 667 $821 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 11
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Hard pass from Detroit.
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23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Devils decline
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23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 16
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Devils decline


Do you mind firing back a counter? Does changing the 2nd to a 1st move the needle enough?
23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 23
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Wings pass, we don't want kerfoot, you can keep him and his cap hit. Rather have lgd for the season and trade him at the deadline for a 3rd
23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 30
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If we are retaining the buyout cost we aren’t going to give the higher pick there lol.
23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: Juice
Do you mind firing back a counter? Does changing the 2nd to a 1st move the needle enough?


It would have to be a first and a RW or RD prospect. We have no need for Johnsson. If we are trading our only viable RD player we need to plug holes.
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23 sept. 2020 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: Juice
Do you mind firing back a counter? Does changing the 2nd to a 1st move the needle enough?


swap the 2nd for the Penguins 1st and it's close. would prefer a deal surrounding Nylander but if not would take 15th +
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23 sept. 2020 à 16 h 1
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Buffalo doesn't want your garbage...he's hardly better than Ullmark.

They definitely don't want Rodrigues back.
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23 sept. 2020 à 16 h 12
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Sabres definitely dont want Rodrigues back but I'd still take that if The Sabres are able to move out more salary. If not thats definitely a speed bump
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23 sept. 2020 à 16 h 30
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Lets go Buffalo
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Buffalo doesn't want your garbage...he's hardly better than Ullmark.

They definitely don't want Rodrigues back.


No E Rod for Buffalo
23 sept. 2020 à 17 h 45
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I always liked erod but he's not at a level to trade assets for.
Buffalo needs a reasonably priced 2 year back up goalie...i mean why wouldn't we just trade for Fleury in this scenario?
Finally i would say if you want to trade mitts go for an offersheet. Its not like TO would be throwing him to the wolves like we did, would you give him 3mil for 5yrs? We might not match, if we do it could screw us.
23 sept. 2020 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: Shnooks
Buffalo doesn't want your garbage...he's hardly better than Ullmark.

They definitely don't want Rodrigues back.


Andersen is an upgrade on Ullmark. Some of your fanbase was higher on Rodrigues so he was a throw in as I'm doubtful the leafs choose to qualify him...if he's not of use something else could get plugged in.....people on here really need to focus on the main pieces of the framework....in this case...Andersen for Mittelstadt....b prospects or 2nd round and higher draft picks can get added to either side

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Sabres definitely dont want Rodrigues back but I'd still take that if The Sabres are able to move out more salary. If not thats definitely a speed bump


You guys needing almost even money swap? I had another scenario where it was an Andersen-Risto based swap...lot of people are hot and cold on Risto either way.
23 sept. 2020 à 21 h 46
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I always liked erod but he's not at a level to trade assets for.
Buffalo needs a reasonably priced 2 year back up goalie...i mean why wouldn't we just trade for Fleury in this scenario?
Finally i would say if you want to trade mitts go for an offersheet. Its not like TO would be throwing him to the wolves like we did, would you give him 3mil for 5yrs? We might not match, if we do it could screw us.


Fleury has a NTC so could dictate where he goes in a trade scenario....no one knows if he'd really be willing to come to either of our teams. I could see a scenario where they buy him out and he signs for $1m to go back to Pittsburgh after they move out Murray.

As for Mittelstadt, what are you hearing on his asking price to re-up? What's the general feeling in Buffalo on him right now?
23 sept. 2020 à 21 h 48
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Quoting: VGKNation702
If we are retaining the buyout cost we aren’t going to give the higher pick there lol.


Buyout costs would apply over the next 4 years....if Vegas is even entertaining the thought of buying him out, you'd have to imagine they'd sweeten the pot on a trade that saves them the cap hit in years 3 and 4.
23 sept. 2020 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: Juice
Fleury has a NTC so could dictate where he goes in a trade scenario....no one knows if he'd really be willing to come to either of our teams. I could see a scenario where they buy him out and he signs for $1m to go back to Pittsburgh after they move out Murray.

As for Mittelstadt, what are you hearing on his asking price to re-up? What's the general feeling in Buffalo on him right now?


Its really all over the place, some want best value now before he's an official bust, others think he developed last year enough to be a middle 6 at least. Mostly the thought is sign him cheap and hope he shows development in AHL and comes up in January. He was going good in rochester before the shutdown. Thats why i think a cheap offersheet would be hilarious cuz it would send the whole fan base into a frenzy.
23 sept. 2020 à 22 h 5
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Its really all over the place, some want best value now before he's an official bust, others think he developed last year enough to be a middle 6 at least. Mostly the thought is sign him cheap and hope he shows development in AHL and comes up in January. He was going good in rochester before the shutdown. Thats why i think a cheap offersheet would be hilarious cuz it would send the whole fan base into a frenzy.


Thanks...sounds like he should be getting a 1yr 'show me' deal under $1m
24 sept. 2020 à 8 h 36
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Quoting: Juice
Andersen is an upgrade on Ullmark. Some of your fanbase was higher on Rodrigues so he was a throw in as I'm doubtful the leafs choose to qualify him...if he's not of use something else could get plugged in.....people on here really need to focus on the main pieces of the framework....in this case...Andersen for Mittelstadt....b prospects or 2nd round and higher draft picks can get added to either side



You guys needing almost even money swap? I had another scenario where it was an Andersen-Risto based swap...lot of people are hot and cold on Risto either way.

Anderson is not an upgrade on Ullmark but they make a fine 1 2. I like Risto, doubt I'd give him up for Andersen.
24 sept. 2020 à 8 h 37
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Thanks...sounds like he should be getting a 1yr 'show me' deal under $1m


I fully expect Mittelstadt to get $874,125, the minimum he can be offered
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