They are cutting costs. Rumoured they want to be around a mid 70s internal cap, real money wise matheson only makes 3.5m vs Hornys 5.3m salary.
I imagine they got more cut costing trades in teh works to get that real money on the books closer to 74m

Detroit says no

Thats weird because florida needs to cut costs way harder than the pens do. Not sure how it makes sense for them to spend on Tanev like they are rumored to.

not a rumor.. can confirm that this is true. They had to ask owners/investors for money already

FLA can flip Horny for picks. Hes a 20-25 goal guy retain 1.5 million and add picks and they made out well

probably bc matheson salary jumps up throughout the remainder of the contract to 5m next year, and 6.5m for the last 3 years.
Save money on the back end. 15,9m left in salary for Horny, 31.5m left on Mathesons contract

Would probably be a short term internal cap reduction until they can get fans back in and revenue up, so they dont care as much as the back end money as part of deals
Wonder if lots of UFAs are going to have their deals structured like that...get more term and back load the deals so teams can get salary commitments low in the first couple years

Hornqvist's contract is terrible.

Anyone commenting on him being a 20-25 goal guy or whatever are forgetting what he's out his body through and his age. That contract is a boat anchor

yeah i played hockey with one of the owners kid and heard that his dad had to reinvest money. what you are saying is 100% accurate. think players would be onboard bc of escrow % right?

has his production dropped? doesnt look like it? solid comment with the facts to back it up

and they become buyout proof specially if they shift to bonus money at the end of the contract. I can see a few yikes contracts be handed out this offseason like that bc some ownership groups just can not afford the high salary commitments or bonus money up front

Canes aren't giving up the 13th for Bryan Rust. Don't say random team if you pick anyone but the Ducks.

No it’s not true. It’s a goofy pens reporter that has been known to make stuff up to try and start controversy. It’s impossible to get in the mid 70 million internal cap range without trading one of Malkin, Crosby, or Letang. Since GMJR has said he has been given the go to build a cup contender no matter the cost and are rumored to be in on Tanev, it kind of blows up the internal cap theory. They are around 75 million now and have to sign Jarry, a 3rd pair RHD, and like 3 forwards lol. So again, no way they have a low-mid 70s million internal cap.

Wings pass, not even close

Honestly just picked a team that had a mid first and had space for him. I wouldnt pay anything above like 25th for him either

lol 70 million in actual $$ not AAV. I'm telling you that its true. Low 70s might be the goal and they might over spend but they are cutting the cap to mid 70's (actual $$ amount)

Murray isn't worth #32OA.

I know what you meant. They are already at the low-mid 70s in real dollars this year. If they were interested in that goal, Hornqvist would be traded for picks not a back loaded contract that starts to become more expensive than Hornqvists actual dollars in the next year or 2. Considering it looks like they won’t have fans this upcoming year unless there is a vaccine approved before the season and might not actually play a full 82 game season, that kind of blows up that theory of an internal cap due to lost revenue. They wouldn’t have used a 1st round pick to take on Kapanen and his salary/cap hit. They’d have used that pick to select a player they could possibly use in a year, if not sooner, with that 15th pick.

Matheson makes 3.5m this year and horny makes 5.3 million. Kappy only makes 3.2m and i guess they feel is a low cap hit for a top 6 winger. Matheson is still 300k cheaper next year so you're wrong there lol. 21-22 year they are expecting to have fans in t he seats / Rev will go up. They are trying to contend so draft picks are idiotic. /Simon (2015) was the most recent draft picks to have a full time role with the penguins... so there goes that " pick would help" theory. basically every point you made was wrong.... horny deal s aved them 1.8m this year and 300k next year.

Great and even with that trade they are still around the 70 million in real dollars with Jarry, Simon, Lafferty, a 3RHD to sign. That will likely take them to around 80 million in actual money at the very least (if they go after Tanev). Again, if they wanted in the low 70s in actual dollars. They’d trade Hornqvist for picks. Use picks in getting rid of JJ. Use Poulin and POJ to replace them. Trade Murray in an attempt to get someone like a Colin Miller from buffalo as opposed to attempting for Tanev that will want almost twice as much.

lmfao what? Simon signs for 800k, Jarry gets 2.5m, Lafferty (750k) penguins trade JJ. Tanev is more than likely not signing OR is contract will be structured that he'll make a ton of money towards the end of the deal.( Pretty obvious) they already have Ruhwedel signed so the "need" for a 3RHD is minimal. i dont want to waste anymore time trying to explain numbers to you bc it seems pointless... you arent understanding. Penguins likely use Murray to dump JJ free up that cap space to sign Tanev to a heavy backend deal. basically used the cap free cap on the "jugs" trde for Mccann. id say t he are going to stay around 72-75 million if i had to guess

Ok you must have a crystal ball 😂. If those players were to sign that cheap, they’d have already signed them lol. Simon likely gets around 1-1.5 million. Jarry will likely get around 3. Lafferty gets around 1 million. I highly doubt he is offered a QO and says how about I sign a deal for less, boss. And with what assets do we trade JJ with? Can’t be murray. If the pens, one of the most profitable organizations over the past decade, have a 70-72 million internal cap, then surely just about everybody else does. And I doubt Tanev takes much of a back loaded contract. He might shed a million or 2 off the first year or 2 and put it on the back end. But I can’t see him doing much more than that. And he is going to want 5+ million. The only reason people think he’ll only sign for 5 million per year here is because his brother plays here.

His last two seasons he was 0.54 and 0.62 ppg. If you add his 2 pts in 8 playoff games it's worse. If you think it's a good idea to pick up a guy around his 34th birthday who has only been a half a point per game winger the last two years for over 5 million that's on you.

Last 3 years

191 gp 64g 54a 118p. (.62 ppg) (.34gpg)

This season
52gp 17g 15a 32points (.62ppg) (.33gpg)

This year he was on pace for 27g and 50 points.

His play hasn’t fallen off and he’s a 50 point player playing on 15-16 minutes. Yeah he’s paid a lot of money but he’s still a great player. Solid “stat lines” lol

If you think it's a good idea to pick up a guy at 34 (around the start of next season) and don't think he's most likely to decline power to you