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Créé par: desertdog111
Équipe: 2020-21 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2020
Publié: 22 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
ANA
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
2.
ARI
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
3.
ARI
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Rubtsov, German
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Oesterle, Jordan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
4.
ARI
  1. McBain, Jack [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Raanta, Antti
  2. Stepan, Derek (3 000 000 $ retained)
5.
TBL
  1. Demers, Jason (1 000 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de PHI
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Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
2021
Logo de ARI
Logo de EDM
Logo de MIN
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
2022
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
Logo de ARI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $72 413 617 $196 951 $1 750 000 $9 086 383 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 5
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
735 000 $735 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 533 333 $1 533 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 475 000 $5 475 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
737 500 $737 500 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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22 sept. 2020 à 17 h 53
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Edmonton sees your offer for a declining defenceman and politely asks you to pound sand.
22 sept. 2020 à 17 h 55
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So the flyers give up the better player, the better pick, and the prospect, for 3 million in cap space? Seems like a no for me.
22 sept. 2020 à 17 h 56
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I think Philly could get a pick for Ghost with out having to give anything up as his contract isn't terrible and considering he'll be healthy next season teams might be more interested. If the player was jVR I could see something like that going out to get him off the books but not Ghost
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22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 0
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Edmonton sees your offer for a declining defenceman and politely asks you to pound sand.


Like it or not this is far more realistic than Chiasson and Russell for OEL
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 1
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So the flyers give up the better player, the better pick, and the prospect, for 3 million in cap space? Seems like a no for me.


I saw someone else propose this trade earlier. Best case I can make for it is it clears cap space for a potential Pietro run
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 2
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Like it or not this is far more realistic than Chiasson and Russell for OEL


Who's suggesting Chiasson and Russell?

The deals I keep seeing are much more in line of Nurse, either the 2020 or 2021 1sts, and one of Kassian, Neal, or Russell. Given that OEL has a big contract and isn't the proven commodity he once was, that's more than enough for him as it is, and I'd argue the value's short on Arizona's side.

The package you're offering could likely land Ekblad. OEL isn't worth that package.
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Who's suggesting Chiasson and Russell?

The deals I keep seeing are much more in line of Nurse, either the 2020 or 2021 1sts, and one of Kassian, Neal, or Russell. Given that OEL has a big contract and isn't the proven commodity he once was, that's more than enough for him as it is, and I'd argue the value's short on Arizona's side.

The package you're offering could likely land Ekblad. OEL isn't worth that package.


Those packages don’t do it either. No interest in Neal Kassian or Russell. I’d switch Bear for Nurse in this deal and drop the 3rd but that’s it
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 10
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Those packages don’t do it either. No interest in Neal Kassian or Russell. I’d switch Bear for Nurse in this deal and drop the 3rd but that’s it


Then you're overvaluing OEL or undervaluing Nurse and/or Edmonton's 1st in either year. Teams don't just take on an $8M hit for the hell of it: Arizona would be expected to take something else back - likely to your chagrin - such that the hits out and in were relatively even.
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 17
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Gourde isn't waiving for Arizona, And beside why would ownership want a 3rd line player making $5,166,666 for the next 5 years?
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Then you're overvaluing OEL or undervaluing Nurse and/or Edmonton's 1st in either year. Teams don't just take on an $8M hit for the hell of it: Arizona would be expected to take something else back - likely to your chagrin - such that the hits out and in were relatively even.


Swapping Nurse for OEL equates to a $2.65 increase in cap for EDM. Coyotes are not making a trade in which they increase their cap especially for term like all of those players you mentioned would do
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 24
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Gourde isn't waiving for Arizona, And beside why would ownership want a 3rd line player making $5,166,666 for the next 5 years?


He’s been good in the playoffs and would be a good player to help Hayton learn how to play center. The term does scare me but if he can play like he has this playoffs I’d say it’s worth it. But switch in Johnson/Killorn in this deal I’d still do it.
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 26
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Swapping Nurse for OEL equates to a $2.65 increase in cap for EDM. Coyotes are not making a trade in which they increase their cap especially for term like all of those players you mentioned would do


Which is exactly why Russell's usually thrown in these deals. But you are mistaken about a crucial detail:

Arizona wants to cut cash dollars, not cap. Edmonton doesn't care about cash dollars, but is restricted by the cap ceiling. Russell's owed 37.5% of his cap hit in actual dollars. That's an enticing contract for a once-again cash-strapped Coyotes franchise.

Nurse and a 1st straight up for OEL is too costly. Toss in Russell, a worthwhile move for both franchises, and its very much more tolerable.
22 sept. 2020 à 18 h 34
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Which is exactly why Russell's usually thrown in these deals. But you are mistaken about a crucial detail:

Arizona wants to cut cash dollars, not cap. Edmonton doesn't care about cash dollars, but is restricted by the cap ceiling. Russell's owed 37.5% of his cap hit in actual dollars. That's an enticing contract for a once-again cash-strapped Coyotes franchise.

Nurse and a 1st straight up for OEL is too costly. Toss in Russell, a worthwhile move for both franchises, and its very much more tolerable.


Fair enough. But it doesn’t address AZ’s core need, which is offense. They can address it through the draft pick but I’d like to think they want to get someone they can plug in the lineup and play now, which is why I added JP. To be honest I don’t know his value (I’m not sure anyone does tbh, scoring in the Finnish league is great but his NHL track record speaks for itself)
 
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