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If Matthews wasnt on the Leafs

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2020
Publié: 22 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
He'd be regarded as a top 10 player who would fetch an unheard of amount of assets in a trade but since he's a leaf he's just average and has a bad contract which scares away teams from sending decent assets if he were to be traded
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Matthews, Auston
411 634 000 $
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TOR
  1. Capobianco, Kyle [Droits de RFA]
  2. Schmaltz, Nick
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Matthews, Auston
Détails additionnels:
Return if he's on the Leafs
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TOR
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
  3. Keller, Clayton
  4. Söderström, Victor
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
2021 1st round pick
ARI
  1. Matthews, Auston
Détails additionnels:
Return if he's on any other team
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 45
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Cause if he wasn't on the leafs his contract would be better
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 46
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If Matthews wasnt on Leafs, Marner would be 8 x 9,5M
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 47
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No, I think most people are in agreement that Matthews would require a kings ransom to acquire. Most middling trades for him get laughed at pretty openly.
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 48
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Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 49
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I think he is regarded as a top 10 player (and if not, hes very close)

His contract isnt great (so thats a fair criticism), but why would you even want to trade him in the first place? Who cares how much other fanbases would give up for him - Just keep him if you dont like the return
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 49
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Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy


That's fair but why does that not apply to Eichel then? He's never even made the playoffs
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 50
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That's fair but why does that not apply to Eichel then? He's never even made the playoffs


Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 52
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I think he is regarded as a top 10 player (and if not, hes very close)

His contract isnt great (so thats a fair criticism), but why would you even want to trade him in the first place? Who cares how much other fanbases would give up for him - Just keep him if you dont like the return


Believe me I'm very against trading him, just annoyed that some people don't understand that he's untouchable and getting him would require a massive overpay like almost every other teams superstar player
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 54
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talk about a made up bad take.
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse


Yes they do.
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 56
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Yes they do.


I see less of it
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 57
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Believe me I'm very against trading him, just annoyed that some people don't understand that he's untouchable and getting him would require a massive overpay like almost every other teams superstar player


I very rarely see Matthews trades posted on here - and if I do see one its very likely that it was posted by a Leafs fan or from the Leafs point of view
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse


all they do is whine and cry about eiichel and how he gets quintuple teamed with no teammates to help
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy

star players when they won first series
Bergeron-5th season
Kopitar- 6th season
Mackinnon-6th season
Benn -7th season

draisaitl and mcdavid winning 1 series 3 years ago isnt playoff success by any means
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 6
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star players when they won first series
Bergeron-5th season
Kopitar- 6th season
Mackinnon-6th season
Benn -7th season

draisaitl and mcdavid winning 1 series 3 years ago isnt playoff success by any means


all of those players proved more before their fans started complaining about them being underrated imo
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 7
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all of those players proved more before their fans started complaining about them being underrated imo


matthews has done way more at his point in his career than those guys did at the same point meaning after the 4th year of their careers
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 9
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matthews has done way more at his point in his career than those guys did at the same point


I promise I don't care, Matthews is fine

The fact that Leafs fans turn it into an argument is why other fanbases think he's overrated
I would personally wait to win before I started arguing about how great a player is
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
I promise I don't care, Matthews is fine

The fact that Leafs fans turn it into an argument is why other fanbases think he's overrated
I would personally wait to win before I started arguing about how great a player is


you can argue about how great a player is without winning, mackinnon and mcdavid havent won anything, cant arugue how good they are? and its not that auston matthews is underrated, but to say hes overrated is dumb and biased, hes not overrated by any means
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 12
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you can argue about how great a player is without winning, mackinnon and mcdavid havent won anything, cant arugue how good they are? and its not that auston matthews is underrated, but to say hes overrated is dumb and biased


again, just my two cents
I don't care
the fact that it turns into an argument is what annoys everyone else
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 12
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22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 13
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
again, just my two cents
I don't care
the fact that it turns into an argument is what annoys everyone else


then why chime in ?
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 16
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then why chime in ?


well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 16
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category


warning you now that this dude will never let up
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22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category


not trying to compare them,but also no reason why matthews wont be in that convo in 1-2 years, ill use draisaitl and eichel instead then, or barkov none have won anything team wise, mackinnon took 6 years to win a series and you dont hear anything coming from other fanbases or media bringing that up
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 23
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Quoting: mondo
warning you now that this dude will never let up


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