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8th OA

Créé par: Robl88
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 sept. 2020
Publié: 22 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 100 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
21 500 000 $
78 550 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
2.
TOR
  1. Jones, Max
  2. Rakell, Rickard (1 894 722 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Berdin, Mikhail
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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2281 500 000 $80 178 200 $0 $0 $1 321 800 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
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821 667 $821 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
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568 417 $568 417 $
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UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
8 550 000 $8 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
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894 167 $894 167 $
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22 sept. 2020 à 13 h 49
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It would def take more than that
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22 sept. 2020 à 13 h 49
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Ducks do not want or need Dermott in any way, Liljegren and a 1st next year doesnt get Jones and Rakell 50% retained
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22 sept. 2020 à 13 h 50
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I'm down for the Jets taking a chance on Kerfoot but no way should they trade Berdin for him.
22 sept. 2020 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: Salzy
Ducks do not want or need Dermott in any way, Liljegren and a 1st next year doesnt get Jones and Rakell 50% retained


Pretty bad when there needs to be retention on a guy who's already on a bargain contract.. Lol
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22 sept. 2020 à 13 h 53
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That'd be a dumb move by Buffalo, no way they should do that.
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 9
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Rakell > Kapanen

So if Kapanen = 15th overall, a roster player and an A prospect, then Rakell (without any silly retention) plus Jones = 15th overall, Holl and Liljegren
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 20
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With that goalie tandem you wouldn't even sniff the playoffs.
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Rakell > Kapanen

So if Kapanen = 15th overall, a roster player and an A prospect, then Rakell (without any silly retention) plus Jones = 15th overall, Holl and Liljegren


Well I mean we all know Dubas ripped of Rutherford though, you can't deny that.
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 25
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Well I mean we all know Dubas ripped of Rutherford though, you can't deny that.


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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Rakell > Kapanen

So if Kapanen = 15th overall, a roster player and an A prospect, then Rakell (without any silly retention) plus Jones = 15th overall, Holl and Liljegren


Call Rutherford maybe he has a 1st plus to trade for Rackell - I do agree that trade is nonsense
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 33
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
That'd be a dumb move by Buffalo, no way they should do that.


Explain why? Just for kicks, this package is a starting goalie for a blind backup goalie a middle 6 winger who has performed admirably with elite talent (Matthews, I'm sure Eichel fits that category) and 15 OA to move up 7 spots in a draft - Just so we are clear this is pretty terrible for TO
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 37
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Why would buffalo do that? Dumb dumb da dumb
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: Boomer125
Explain why? Just for kicks, this package is a starting goalie for a blind backup goalie a middle 6 winger who has performed admirably with elite talent (Matthews, I'm sure Eichel fits that category) and 15 OA to move up 7 spots in a draft - Just so we are clear this is pretty terrible for TO


The value of the player and pick exchange is very reasonable, you are correct.
Buffalo does not need another LW so Johnsson does nothing for the team now nor the future
Andersen is great, but he is signed for one year and he will most likely go to another team that knows how to win.
Also Andersen's contract of $5,000,000 along with $3,400,000 of Johnsson is more than Kim will be willing to spend.
She needs to get her hair and nails done you know!
Buffalo would trade for players whose cap is larger than their actual salary, get more picks, or add players that fit into the lineup.
I hope this answers your queston.
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 50
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
The value of the player and pick exchange is very reasonable, you are correct.
Buffalo does not need another LW so Johnsson does nothing for the team now nor the future
Andersen is great, but he is signed for one year and he will most likely go to another team that knows how to win.
Also Andersen's contract of $5,000,000 along with $3,400,000 of Johnsson is more than Kim will be willing to spend.
She needs to get her hair and nails done you know!
Buffalo would trade for players whose cap is larger than their actual salary, get more picks, or add players that fit into the lineup.
I hope this answers your queston.


Andersen is owed 1 million dollars for the season (bonus has been paid) Johnsson although has a cap hit of 3.4 is owed 2.6 million for each of the next 3 seasons - Kim would be paying a total of 3.6 million for a starting goalie and a F who has shown he keeps up just fine in a top 6 - I hope this answers your concerns
22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
The value of the player and pick exchange is very reasonable, you are correct.
Buffalo does not need another LW so Johnsson does nothing for the team now nor the future
Andersen is great, but he is signed for one year and he will most likely go to another team that knows how to win.
Also Andersen's contract of $5,000,000 along with $3,400,000 of Johnsson is more than Kim will be willing to spend.
She needs to get her hair and nails done you know!
Buffalo would trade for players whose cap is larger than their actual salary, get more picks, or add players that fit into the lineup.
I hope this answers your queston.


The value is not good.
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22 sept. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
The value of the player and pick exchange is very reasonable, you are correct.
Buffalo does not need another LW so Johnsson does nothing for the team now nor the future
Andersen is great, but he is signed for one year and he will most likely go to another team that knows how to win.
Also Andersen's contract of $5,000,000 along with $3,400,000 of Johnsson is more than Kim will be willing to spend.
She needs to get her hair and nails done you know!
Buffalo would trade for players whose cap is larger than their actual salary, get more picks, or add players that fit into the lineup.
I hope this answers your queston.


So to be completely clear Hutton is owed 2.75 and in this trade you are rid of a goalie who was terrible aquired a grand total of 3.6 million in actual dollars in a starter and F and fell to 7 spots in this draft - all of this has pegula written all over it
22 sept. 2020 à 15 h 3
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So to be completely clear Hutton is owed 2.75 and in this trade you are rid of a goalie who was terrible aquired a grand total of 3.6 million in actual dollars in a starter and F and fell to 7 spots in this draft - all of this has pegula written all over it


OK great, makes a lot of sense for the bottom line.
Anderson for one year is not worth moving down and Buffalo needs RW not LW.
I should not have brought cash into the picture and stayed with the players.
BTW Hutton a very bad stretch of 12 games in which he could not follow the puck.
Earlier in the year, he set a Sabre record for most saves to record a shut out.
Take out the eye issues, he was OK.
If Buffalo was a GK away from competing with the Leafs you are correct pull the trigger on this trade.
But they need at least 2 middle six right handed shooters, another center and a LHD, which one of those holes is filled by this trade?
None, this trade does not help Buffalo.
The 8th OA may do it next season, by then, Ullmark will be better and Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka will be a year closer.
Trading away first round picks for the likes of Lehner and Kane put Buffalo in the hole that they are in.
IMO they need to stop doing that.
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22 sept. 2020 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
That'd be a dumb move by Buffalo, no way they should do that.


Exactly
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22 sept. 2020 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: Boomer125
Explain why? Just for kicks, this package is a starting goalie for a blind backup goalie a middle 6 winger who has performed admirably with elite talent (Matthews, I'm sure Eichel fits that category) and 15 OA to move up 7 spots in a draft - Just so we are clear this is pretty terrible for TO


Cause they could potentially get a much more impactful player at 8th overall then 15th overall.
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22 sept. 2020 à 23 h 15
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Cause they could potentially get a much more impactful player at 8th overall then 15th overall.


If you look at the actual value of picks, plus the value these players carry, it’s a really good deal for Buffalo imo. They are turning one pick into 2 NHL-quality pieces, and only moving down 7 spots, where the difference in quality isn’t anything TOO substantial. They can still hit a really good player. The actual base salary Buffalo has to pay here is low, and they become a more competitive team straight away.

It works for the Leafs because they shed these cap hits and score a chance to hit a prospect with the potential to make future contract decisions a little easier down the road.
 
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