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Best Case Scenario Offseason

Créé par: bobby37martin
Date de création initiale: sep 21, 2020
Publié: 21 sep 2020 à 23 h 11
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
Stutzle at 4
seider cholo zadina veleno can all make the jump

bert and mantha take bridge deals
utilizing the flat cap to obtain demko, wilde, and picks
sign krug to not 7 years
yes im aware none of this will probably happen
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler34 000 000 $
Mantha, Anthony35 000 000 $
Hirose, Taro2900 000 $
Erne, Adam2900 000 $
Ehn, Christoffer2900 000 $
Timashov, Dmytro2900 000 $
Turgeon, Dominic2900 000 $
Perlini, Brendan2900 000 $
Bowey, Madison2970 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Krug, Torey67 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Stutzle, Tim3925 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. Demko, Thatcher
  2. Eriksson, Loui
  3. 2020 4e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. 2020 5e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. 2020 3e round pick (VGK)
VGK
    DET
    1. 2022 4e round pick (CGY)
    CGY
    1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 000 000 $ retained)
    DET
    1. Wilde, Bode
    2. Ladd, Andrew
    3. 2020 3e round pick (NYI)
    NYI
    1. 2021 6e round pick (DET)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Stephen Weiss: 1 666 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Marc-André Fleury: 3 000 000 $ (42.86%)
    • David Savard: 1 062 500 $ (25%)
    • Patrik Nemeth: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
    Enfoui
    • Darren Helm: 2 775 000 $ (3 850 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    DET
    DET
    EDM
    WSH
    DET
    SJS
    VGK
    NYI
    EDM
    VAN
    DET
    DET
    2021
    DET
    DET
    EDM
    DET
    VGK
    DET
    DET
    DET
    2022
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    CGY
    DET
    DET
    DET
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $78 084 999 $0 $2 360 000 $3 415 001 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    DET
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Larkin, Dylan
    6 100 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Mantha, Anthony
    5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    DET
    Fabbri, Robby
    2 950 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Glendening, Luke
    1 800 000 $
    C, AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Zadina, Filip
    894 167 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Abdelkader, Justin
    4 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Veleno, Joseph
    894 167 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    DET
    Filppula, Valtteri
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Smith, Givani
    714 166 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Nielsen, Frans
    5 250 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Erne, Adam
    900 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Krug, Torey
    7 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    DET
    Hronek, Filip
    714 166 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Bernier, Jonathan
    3 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Nemeth, Patrik
    1 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Seider, Moritz
    894 167 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    1 050 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Cholowski, Dennis
    894 166 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Lindström, Gustav
    775 833 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    NYI
    Ladd, Andrew
    5 500 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Zetterberg, Henrik
    6 083 333 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Eriksson, Loui
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    DET
    DeKeyser, Danny
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2

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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 12
    #1
    burn the pegulas
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    what does your mock draft look like then? who do you have at 3?
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 16
    #2
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    I think the Islanders would do that every day.
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 18
    #3
    Buffbry
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    Wings need to get more out of Vegas for taking fleury and then more form Calgary for retaining on fleury..


    Mantha and hurt each get at least 1 million more, mantha maybe 2M.

    Van gets erne and we get an extra 2nd instead if 4th

    Isles get perlini and we get wilde + bellows + 1st for taking ladd's awful contract.

    Rest is fine, especially if stutz drops to us at 4. I heard same that Ottawa likes both drysdale and raymond at 3
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 19
    #4
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    L.A. taking Byfield at 2 and Ottawa taking Drysdale at 3. Ottawa still gets a very good forward prospect at 5, I bet they jump on the best D-man before Detroit has a chance of taking him
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 22
    #5
    Mr.T 17
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    I feel that the wings regardless of who they have NEED right shot wingers, so I firmly believe that they'll pick Lucas Raymond in this draft, unless they trade for someone already in the NHL that is right hand shot, but Stutzle if still available at 4th is a great pick also
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 23
    #6
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    Those bridge deals for Mantha and Bert are straight to UFA. We take on 6M deadcap for Flower only for a 3rd and 4th, pass. Wilde (RD) isn’t a pressing need to take on Ladd’s contract not enough value. Value also seems light from Vancouver and I doubt Eriksson waives.
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 25
    #7
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    Quoting: cody_tugak
    I feel that the wings regardless of who they have NEED right shot wingers, so I firmly believe that they'll pick Lucas Raymond in this draft, unless they trade for someone already in the NHL that is right hand shot, but Stutzle if still available at 4th is a great pick also


    While I agree about better right wing play, you need to draft BPA if you have the 4th pick. I think Yzerman will take whoever is available at 4 between Stutzle, Byfield, or Drysdale. I am completely fine with any, but Stutzle is the hope
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 29
    #8
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    Quoting: BStinson
    Those bridge deals for Mantha and Bert are straight to UFA. We take on 6M deadcap for Flower only for a 3rd and 4th, pass. Wilde (RD) isn’t a pressing need to take on Ladd’s contract not enough value. Value also seems light from Vancouver and I doubt Eriksson waives.


    I understand the returns are not shiny, but Detroit only gains from these situations. Keep in mind they have to compete with Ottawa, Buffalo, NJ, and L.A. in the flat cap race. Demko looked strong against Vegas and Wilde is a right handed d-man, projected to make the NHL in 2021-22. Those do not come around very often. That is why Yzerman jumped on Seider.
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 32
    #9
    burn the pegulas
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    Quoting: bobby37martin
    L.A. taking Byfield at 2 and Ottawa taking Drysdale at 3. Ottawa still gets a very good forward prospect at 5, I bet they jump on the best D-man before Detroit has a chance of taking him


    ottawa knows that detroit won’t take drysdale at 3 because they already have great defense prospects in seider and hronek...they can get stutzle at 3 and still have drysdale on the board at 5
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 38
    #10
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    Quoting: chloewoj
    ottawa knows that detroit won’t take drysdale at 3 because they already have great defense prospects in seider and hronek...they can get stutzle at 3 and still have drysdale on the board at 5


    If you do not think Detroit takes Drysdale at 4, who does Yzerman pick? I've always been under the school of thought that you cannot have too many good defensive prospects(colorado)
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 50
    #11
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    Quoting: bobby37martin
    I understand the returns are not shiny, but Detroit only gains from these situations. Keep in mind they have to compete with Ottawa, Buffalo, NJ, and L.A. in the flat cap race. Demko looked strong against Vegas and Wilde is a right handed d-man, projected to make the NHL in 2021-22. Those do not come around very often. That is why Yzerman jumped on Seider.

    Of all the teams you listed on NJ didn’t cut payroll. We are talking about Melnyk & Pegulas whom reported internal caps. Demko looked strong for three games but had a rather mediocre regular season. We have Hronek, Seider, and Lindstrom as RD as soon as next year. That’s not even counting Tuomisto. Ladd is three more years on an anchor of a contract.
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 51
    #12
    burn the pegulas
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    Quoting: bobby37martin
    If you do not think Detroit takes Drysdale at 4, who does Yzerman pick? I've always been under the school of thought that you cannot have too many good defensive prospects(colorado)

    i want them to take perfetti so rossi falls to buffalo but i see detroit taking raymond at 4
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    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 51
    #13
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    Give ya credit for attempting to be clever with fluery but that’s not at all likely
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 55
    #14
    Mr.T 17
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    I honestly cannot wait till October 6th, every oilers fans best day of the year, DRAFT DAY, I hope the Oilers can get Askarov and hope they get him, Askarov and Konovalov would be a really good tandem for the Oilers
    21 sep 2020 à 23 h 56
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    Quoting: bobby37martin
    If you do not think Detroit takes Drysdale at 4, who does Yzerman pick? I've always been under the school of thought that you cannot have too many good defensive prospects(colorado)

    It’s interesting the amount of first round picks on Tampa split between their forwards and defensemen. Seems like Yzerman has a trend in that he can find valuable forwards outside the first.
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    22 sep 2020 à 0 h 01
    #16
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    Quoting: BStinson
    Of all the teams you listed on NJ didn’t cut payroll. We are talking about Melnyk & Pegulas whom reported internal caps. Demko looked strong for three games but had a rather mediocre regular season. We have Hronek, Seider, and Lindstrom as RD as soon as next year. That’s not even counting Tuomisto. Ladd is three more years on an anchor of a contract.


    I do like Detroit's potential depth at RHD. I belong to the school of thought being you cannot have too many defensive prospects. Detroit has the cap flexibility to take on a lot of bad contracts and I hope the returns are better than what I put.
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    22 sep 2020 à 0 h 01
    #17
    Canucks1972
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    Van would never make that trade. Demko has more value than you think.
    22 sep 2020 à 0 h 02
    #18
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    Give ya credit for attempting to be clever with fluery but that’s not at all likely


    He has been rumored before of being ok with Calgary. It is quite unlikely, but we know what his agent is thinking!
    22 sep 2020 à 0 h 04
    #19
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    Quoting: Canucks1972
    Van would never make that trade. Demko has more value than you think.


    I think Benning wants to get rid of that contract BAD. Demko was alright in the reg season, and Van has DiPietro right behind him
    22 sep 2020 à 0 h 47
    #20
    bgainesdm
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    Islanders say "Sure, why not?"
    22 sep 2020 à 4 h 35
    #21
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    This is all ok. We should get higher picks, especially in the Fleury deals, but principally it’s directionally correct (for the Wings - no way Vancouver does that deal). The only thing I don’t agree with at all is bridging Mantha. As the talent on the team improves, that guy could easily blow up. He’s already a $9M impact player according to Dom Lyscuzcyn (spelling?)’ cost performance model. I want that guy locked up for as long as possible.
    22 sep 2020 à 8 h 52
    #22
    Go Wings Go
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    Screw the bridge deals on Bertuzzi and Mantha both are coming of their 2 year bridge deals. 3 years of Bertuzzi takes him up to UFA Yzerman wont do that with Mantha it eats up 1 year of UFA and it would cost more then $5m per probably at least $6m per if not more. Krug stays in Boston for 6 x 7 to come home to Detroit Krug will want either 7 x $7.5m or 7 x $8.0m not less. And dude we're not retaining $3m on Marc Andre-Fleury and then flipping him to Calgary if we trade for him he plays for us for 2 years.
     
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