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Alternative Laine trade

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Date de création initiale: 21 sept. 2020
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21 sept. 2020 à 21 h 48
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This is a terrible trade for the islanders
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 0
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That'll be a no from the Jets I think. It doesn't really address their needs.
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21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 17
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This is a terrible trade for the islanders


It's not nearly enough. He'd be the best goal scorer on the Islanders since Bossy.

In exchange a young mid tier d, a young middle six winger and a pretty good but not great prospect?
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 20
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It's not nearly enough. He'd be the best goal scorer on the Islanders since Bossy.

In exchange a young mid tier d, a young middle six winger and a pretty good but not great prospect?


Devon toews is a top pairing defenseman, he’s an elite play driver (offensively + defensively).

Beauvillier is a top 6 winger.

Laine has a great shot but he doesn’t drive play and he’s awful defensively. He’s going to want a contract that exceeds what he brings to a team. Opportunity cost is too much, were good
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 23
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Isles can't ruin what makes them so strong for Laine. He'd be a fantastic pick up but for their nucleus is just a bad move.
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21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 26
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Isles can't ruin what makes them so strong for Laine. He'd be a fantastic pick up but for their nucleus is just a bad move.


This. Removing beauvillier and toews + adding Laine doesn’t make the islanders a better team
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 28
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This. Removing beauvillier and toews + adding Laine doesn’t make the islanders a better team


The isles need to do 3 things:

Keep their strengths.
Add a sniper.
figure out the cap issues.

By no means does that infer to trade their top guys for improvements elsewhere.
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 30
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The isles need to do 3 things:

Keep their strengths.
Add a sniper.
figure out the cap issues.

By no means does that infer to trade their top guys for improvements elsewhere.


I would trade pulock for ehlers straight up and sign demelo. That would make the islanders better, but they can’t trade 2 young roster players.

Wahlstrom will be on the team next season, he should help on the powerplay
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 31
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I would trade pulock for ehlers straight up and sign demelo. That would make the islanders better, but they can’t trade 2 young roster players.

Wahlstrom will be on the team next season, he should help on the powerplay


That makes them better offensively but don't you feel going from Pulock to DeMelo will create issues from where they we're so dominant? it's risky. Just trade Eberle and sign a Hoffman, Toffoli, Dadonov.
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 43
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That makes them better offensively but don't you feel going from Pulock to DeMelo will create issues from where they we're so dominant? it's risky. Just trade Eberle and sign a Hoffman, Toffoli, Dadonov.


I guess it depends if trotz is going to take the training wheels off of Dobson (he should). In that case then they would be a better team.

Eberle is better than Hoffman and toffoli. Dadonov is an upgrade but he’ll be 32 next season.
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 45
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I guess it depends if trotz is going to take the training wheels off of Dobson (he should). In that case then they would be a better team.

Eberle is better than Hoffman and toffoli. Dadonov is an upgrade but he’ll be 32 next season.


I have to disagree on Eberle. I think Lou should ship him out before he falls off. It's obvious this top 6 won't work.
21 sept. 2020 à 22 h 47
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I have to disagree on Eberle. I think Lou should ship him out before he falls off. It's obvious this top 6 won't work.


Eberle is a lot better than bailey, so if anything he should be traded. Eberle is the most underrated player on the team, he gets so much hate despite him being extremely effective.

By the end of next season, I would like to see:

Beauvillier -barzal -eberle
Lee- Nelson -wahlstrom
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 19
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Eberle is a lot better than bailey, so if anything he should be traded. Eberle is the most underrated player on the team, he gets so much hate despite him being extremely effective.

By the end of next season, I would like to see:

Beauvillier -barzal -eberle
Lee- Nelson -wahlstrom


Why aren't these guys scoring tho? they need a sniper of sorts
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 26
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Why aren't these guys scoring tho? they need a sniper of sorts


Beauvillier had more G/60 than Laine this season at 5v5.

Two reasons why they don’t score many goals

1. Defense 1st system
2. Lee and beau are on the wrong lines

Beauvillier-barzal-eberle was our most dominant line two years ago (pre trotz) , yet trotz refuses to put those 3 back together.

Wahlstrom should be on barzal’s wing within the next year or 2.
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 27
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Beauvillier had more G/60 than Laine this season at 5v5.

Two reasons why they don’t score many goals

1. Defense 1st system
2. Lee and beau are on the wrong lines

Beauvillier-barzal-eberle was our most dominant line two years ago (pre trotz) , yet trotz refuses to put those 3 back together.

Wahlstrom should be on barzal’s wing within the next year or 2.


Interesting.
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 31
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Interesting.


During this playoff run, lee took 3 shifts with Nelson. He scored two goals.

Beauvillier had two shifts with barzal. He scored both times.

Trotz still won’t switch beau and lee permanently. Makes no sense.
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 37
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During this playoff run, lee took 3 shifts with Nelson. He scored two goals.

Beauvillier had two shifts with barzal. He scored both times.

Trotz still won’t switch beau and lee permanently. Makes no sense.


Why? is there literally any reason other than ignorance.
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 38
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Why? is there literally any reason other than ignorance.


Trotz is a stubborn coach who often makes self defeating moves. He did the same thing in Washington.

The isles lack of scoring has more to do with trotz than the personnel.
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 40
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Trotz is a stubborn coach who often makes self defeating moves. He did the same thing in Washington.

The isles lack of scoring has more to do with trotz than the personnel.


What do you think happens then? Lou makes a change? Lines change?
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 48
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What do you think happens then? Lou makes a change? Lines change?


To upgrade the roster? Wahlstrom will make the team - has one of the best shots outside of the NHL, he’ll help on the powerplay.

One day trotz will realize beau is the best winger for barzal, hopefully
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 52
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To upgrade the roster? Wahlstrom will make the team - has one of the best shots outside of the NHL, he’ll help on the powerplay.

One day trotz will realize beau is the best winger for barzal, hopefully


What lines and pairings you running next year?
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 56
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What lines and pairings you running next year?


Me?

Beau-barzal-eberle
Lee-Nelson-Wahlstrom
Dal colle-JGP-bailey
? - cizikas - ?

Pelech-pulock
Toews-dobson
Greene-mayfield



Trotz:

Lee-barzal-eberle
Beau-Nelson-bailey
dal colle-JGP- Wahlstrom

Pelech-pulock
Toews-mayfield
Greene-dobson
21 sept. 2020 à 23 h 58
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Me?

Beau-barzal-eberle
Lee-Nelson-Wahlstrom
Dal colle-JGP-bailey
? - cizikas - ?

Pelech-pulock
Toews-dobson
Greene-mayfield



Trotz:

Lee-barzal-eberle
Beau-Nelson-bailey
dal colle-JGP- Wahlstrom

Pelech-pulock
Toews-mayfield
Greene-dobson


If Tavares played there still he would elevate Lee and bailey's game where they couldve played Barzal, Eberle, and Beau together. That'd be nice...
22 sept. 2020 à 0 h 1
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If Tavares played there still he would elevate Lee and bailey's game where they couldve played Barzal, Eberle, and Beau together. That'd be nice...


Tavares has made plenty of players a lot of money in his career , but the funny thing is he actually didn’t make elevate lee or baileys game. Lee was just great and his isolated impact showed that. Obviously Tavares is still a great player, but Nelson is no slouch and lee would benefit from playing on his line because they play a similar style
 
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