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Créé par: desertdog111
Date de création initiale: sep 21, 2020
Publié: 21 sep 2020 à 5 h 38
Équipe: 2020-21 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Explications
Very conservative approach if no one pays the price for Keumper or OEL
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Capobianco, Kyle1800 000 $
Fischer, Christian1800 000 $
Gross, Jordan1800 000 $
Smereck, Jalen1800 000 $
Transactions
ARI
  1. Donato, Ryan
  2. Pateryn, Greg
  3. 2020 4e round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Stepan, Derek
  2. Raanta, Antti
ARI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. 2020 4e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Hjalmarsson, Niklas (2 500 000 $ retained)
ARI
    Penalty
    TOR
    1. 2020 2e round pick (ARI)
    2. 2021 1e round pick (ARI)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Niklas Hjalmarsson: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    ARI
    MIN
    TOR
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    2021
    ARI
    ARI
    PIT
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    2022
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $73 084 451 $196 951 $1 750 000 $8 415 549 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    ARI
    Keller, Clayton
    7 150 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 8
    ARI
    Dvorak, Christian
    4 450 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 5
    ARI
    Kessel, Phil
    6 800 000 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Johnsson, Andreas
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    ARI
    Schmaltz, Nick
    5 850 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    ARI
    Garland, Conor
    775 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Donato, Ryan
    1 900 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    ARI
    Hayton, Barrett
    894 167 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    ARI
    Grabner, Michael
    3 350 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Crouse, Lawson
    1 533 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    ARI
    Pederson, Lane
    735 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    ARI
    Fischer, Christian
    800 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    ARI
    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    8 250 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    ARI
    Demers, Jason
    3 937 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Kuemper, Darcy
    4 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    ARI
    Chychrun, Jakob
    4 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
    ARI
    Goligoski, Alex
    5 475 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Hill, Adin
    800 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    ARI
    Capobianco, Kyle
    800 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Pateryn, Greg
    2 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    ARI
    Oesterle, Jordan
    1 400 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Hossa, Marián
    5 275 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Bunting, Michael
    737 500 $
    AG
    UFA - 1

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    21 sep 2020 à 5 h 46
    #1
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    Do you actually want Pateryn from MN, or is he there to send cap back to AZ?

    I've played with a similar idea of Stephan/Raanta to MN. I was thinking Donato 1-for-1 for either of them is probably close in value. A 2nd or a 3rd for the other one.
    21 sep 2020 à 5 h 48
    #2
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    Hjalmarsson gets more than that probably, especially at 50%. At least conditions on the pick based on how many games he plays or something
    21 sep 2020 à 6 h 56
    #3
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Hjalmarsson gets more than that probably, especially at 50%. At least conditions on the pick based on how many games he plays or something


    If there wasn't a pandemic and hardly any teams able to take his contract even at 50%.
    21 sep 2020 à 8 h 19
    #4
    Rejoint: avr 2019
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    What is the price on OEL?
    21 sep 2020 à 9 h 41
    #5
    Dom6Yotes
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    If there wasn't a pandemic and hardly any teams able to take his contract even at 50%.


    yeah no that's wrong if team cant afford 2.5M then there in major cap hell and only a few teams are in that , Colorado has cap space and have ask for Hammer according to Elliott Friedman
    21 sep 2020 à 10 h 34
    #6
    Rejoint: mai 2018
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    Quoting: DSZ
    yeah no that's wrong if team cant afford 2.5M then there in major cap hell and only a few teams are in that , Colorado has cap space and have ask for Hammer according to Elliott Friedman


    Cool name 5 other teams with cap space and no internal budget.
    21 sep 2020 à 10 h 36
    #7
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    If there wasn't a pandemic and hardly any teams able to take his contract even at 50%.


    Noone would be able to take a veteran defenseman at 2.5M caphit and $1M salary obligation? That seems pretty pessimistic...
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    21 sep 2020 à 10 h 52
    #8
    Dom6Yotes
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    Cool name 5 other teams with cap space and no internal budget.


    Toronto , Pittsburgh , Nashville , St Louis , Edmonton , and i'll keep going Montreal , Minnesota , Washington , Anaheim , and Boston , The team with lowest cap hit right now is Vegas after you consider LTIR players and they still have 4.9M in cap space , your still forgetting that 16 teams right now have north of 10M in cap space and majority of those teams free agents and even restricted free agents wont be coming back if Bjugstad's at 2.1M , Kapanen at 3.2M can get moved and montreal signing Edmundson at 3.5M then Hammer at 2.5M can definitely get moved
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    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 18
    #9
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    Quoting: Del_
    Noone would be able to take a veteran defenseman at 2.5M caphit and $1M salary obligation? That seems pretty pessimistic...


    Some can but how many players are available? How many teams can add salary and how many teams will want to? I think everyone is hopelessly unrealistic on how this summer is going to pan out.
    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 21
    #10
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    Quoting: DSZ
    Toronto , Pittsburgh , Nashville , St Louis , Edmonton , and i'll keep going Montreal , Minnesota , Washington , Anaheim , and Boston , The team with lowest cap hit right now is Vegas after you consider LTIR players and they still have 4.9M in cap space , your still forgetting that 16 teams right now have north of 10M in cap space and majority of those teams free agents and even restricted free agents wont be coming back if Bjugstad's at 2.1M , Kapanen at 3.2M can get moved and montreal signing Edmundson at 3.5M then Hammer at 2.5M can definitely get moved


    And you forget that a some of those teams you mentioned don't have much cap space, some are not looking to add salary due to lost ticket sales and almost all have players of their own to resign. FA's this year are going to feel the pinch, teams needing to shed cap to sign RFA's are in big trouble as well. It's not going to be what people think it's going to be.
    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 27
    #11
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    Quoting: wabit
    Do you actually want Pateryn from MN, or is he there to send cap back to AZ?

    I've played with a similar idea of Stephan/Raanta to MN. I was thinking Donato 1-for-1 for either of them is probably close in value. A 2nd or a 3rd for the other one.


    I don’t know much about Pateryn to be honest. I figured him and Oesterle could rotate on the bottom pair. But yes part of the reason I sent him back is because it evens out the cap a little bit
    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 28
    #12
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Hjalmarsson gets more than that probably, especially at 50%. At least conditions on the pick based on how many games he plays or something


    You think we could squeeze a second out of Toronto in that trade?
    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 29
    #13
    Dom6Yotes
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    And you forget that a some of those teams you mentioned don't have much cap space, some are not looking to add salary due to lost ticket sales and almost all have players of their own to resign. FA's this year are going to feel the pinch, teams needing to shed cap to sign RFA's are in big trouble as well. It's not going to be what people think it's going to be.


    andd just like that Hjalmarsson said he isnt waiving his NMC so that puts atleast the Hjalmarsson conversation to rest but i do agree this free agency is gonna be a lot different from previous years
    21 sep 2020 à 12 h 31
    #14
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    What is the price on OEL?


    Barebones is Top 6 C/Top 4 D, B+ prospect, 1st rounder and other pick(s)
    21 sep 2020 à 14 h 18
    #15
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    Barebones is Top 6 C/Top 4 D, B+ prospect, 1st rounder and other pick(s)


    I'll circle around to Carolina and take Jake Gardnier off their hands for next to nothing - he's literally a half step down from OEL , half the price and half the term
    21 sep 2020 à 14 h 33
    #16
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    I'll circle around to Carolina and take Jake Gardnier off their hands for next to nothing - he's literally a half step down from OEL , half the price and half the term


    Good luck with that lol. I’d take OEL over Gardiner with the contract factored in every day
    21 sep 2020 à 15 h 54
    #17
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    I don’t know much about Pateryn to be honest. I figured him and Oesterle could rotate on the bottom pair. But yes part of the reason I sent him back is because it evens out the cap a little bit


    He's a less good and more injured Hjalmarsson I guess would be the best way to describe him. He's a nice 3rd pair guy to have, if he can be healthy.

    The players going to MN are a decent fit, but I don't see both of them going to MN.
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    21 sep 2020 à 17 h 41
    #18
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    Quoting: desertdog111
    You think we could squeeze a second out of Toronto in that trade?


    Conditional 2nd yes depending on how many game she plays. Regardless sounds like he refuses to waive his NMC so it doesn't matter
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