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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2020
Publié: 20 sept. 2020
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This just makes to much sense.

Rodrigues does not get his QA but signs a 1 year show me deal.

Martin comes back to play on the same team as his friend Marner

Kerfoot, Engval, Johnsson and dermott are moved to make room for 2 RHD.

Muzzin-Demelo - (New Shutdown duo)
Rielly-Hamonic - (Rielly gains an experienced partner who can watch his back)
Lehtonen-Holl - (Lehtonen can play offensive while Holl can play defensive)

Freddie stays as common with this dcore he could finally be in the Vezina conversation.

Now the seattle issue. Dubas strikes a deal for them to Holl by giving them one of the thirds



As for the 15th oa what do we do with it. Draft Askarov if available
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20 sept. 2020 à 23 h 44
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Dermott to the Rangers again!!
20 sept. 2020 à 23 h 45
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The majority of rangers fans are okay with it your the minority who does not like it.
20 sept. 2020 à 23 h 51
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Nah we don't want Hamonic and that's a fat overpay for DeMelo
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Nah we don't want Hamonic and that's a fat overpay for DeMelo


Thats not an overpay for Demelo facepalm. Hes gonna make 3-4mill next season. Anything less is underpaying him

As for Hamonic guys good, and would be an ideal fit for rielly. Especially if someone targets him
20 sept. 2020 à 23 h 59
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The majority of rangers fans are okay with it your the minority who does not like it.


We will take Dermott, but you are getting a 4th, at best.
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21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: aadoyle
The majority of rangers fans are okay with it your the minority who does not like it.


dermott isnt worth 2 3rds. Especially with all the options at LD avaliable. You may garner a 3rd but that is pushing it alone.
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We will take Dermott, but you are getting a 4th, at best.


4th is a little low how about the 2022 3rd. Dermott is young, good defensively, and has no arbitration rights giving the rangers full control of his contract negotiations
21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 1
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dermott isnt worth 2 3rds. Especially with all the options at LD avaliable. You may garner a 3rd but that is pushing it alone.


i can do 1 third. Moving him is the main goal. Rangers could give a 2022 3rd as its 2 years away and Dermott could become a 20point dman with the rangers.

Cause

Lindgren-Fox
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Hajek/Staal-Deangelo
could be intriguing
21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 3
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4th is a little low how about 1 third. Dermott is young, good defensively, and has no arbitration rights giving the rangers full control of his contract negotiations


If he is good defensively, why aren’t Leaf’s fans just signing him? The team is terrible on the back end. Every person on here is trading the guy, makes zero sense.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
If he is good defensively, why aren’t Leaf’s fans just signing him? The team is terrible on the back end. Every person on here is trading the guy, makes zero sense.


we got to many LD. With Lehtonen coming from the KHL and Sandin being ready next season we got no spot for him. And were not terrible on the back end we had a bad year it happens. With some moves we go back to where we were 2 years ago where we placed 11th in GA. Cause man if any team lost 2 of their best dman right off the back they would struggle.

Cause this season the plan is

Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Demelo
Lehtonen-Holl

than after seattle

Rielly-Hamonic
Muzzin-Liligren
Sandin-Demelo
21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 9
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Thats not an overpay for Demelo facepalm. Hes gonna make 3-4mill next season. Anything less is underpaying him

As for Hamonic guys good, and would be an ideal fit for rielly. Especially if someone targets him


They're both upgrades on what the Leafs have right now for sure but I feel like they are both last options for the Leafs. I think Dubas is gonna try and make a splash whether it's Pietrangelo or not. I wouldn't mind DeMelo but not for that money he's not really a lock as a top 4 defenceman but definitely a safe signing
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They're both upgrades on what the Leafs have right now for sure but I feel like they are both last options for the Leafs. I think Dubas is gonna try and make a splash whether it's Pietrangelo or not. I wouldn't mind DeMelo but not for that money he's not really a lock as a top 4 defenceman


pitrangelo means losing Nylander, Ekblad means losing Nylander

Dubas made it clear he isnt moving him

In general, there arent many RHD that are a defensive upgrade over those 2 that wont cost us Nylander. That 1st wont get us anything better so best to keep it and just sign those 2.
21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 25
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pitrangelo means losing Nylander, Ekblad means losing Nylander

Dubas made it clear he isnt moving him

In general, there arent many RHD that are a defensive upgrade over those 2 that wont cost us Nylander. That 1st wont get us anything better so best to keep it and just sign those 2.


There's David Savard, Ryan Ellis, Josh Manson, and Brett Pesce who I think would be better options overall and I don't think any of them would cost Nylander except Ellis but they would all fill huge needs on the right side. I just don't think Dubas is the type of guy to use his cap space on DeMelo and Hamonic. There's nothing wrong with those two but there's definitely better options for this team long term
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There's David Savard, Ryan Ellis, Josh Manson, and Brett Pesce who I think would be better options overall and I don't think any of them would cost Nylander except Ellis but they would all fill huge needs on the right side. I just don't think Dubas is the type of guy to use his cap space on DeMelo and Hamonic


Ellis costs u Nylander, Savard costs a 2nd but is comparable to hamonic so why waste the pick, Pesce costs u Nylander, Manson will cost u more than he should as the ducks gm loves him. Overall not worth it and expensive

In general going for more depth is better overall and gaining 2 solid RHD off free agency is significantly better than just trading for a big name at the cost of Nylander.
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We will take Dermott, but you are getting a 4th, at best.


That trade works
21 sept. 2020 à 0 h 32
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That trade works


i can do a 3rd in 2022. In 2 years rangers should be competitive and Dermott may solidify his role as a top 4 LD
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21 sept. 2020 à 10 h 42
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Quoting: aadoyle
Ellis costs u Nylander, Savard costs a 2nd but is comparable to hamonic so why waste the pick, Pesce costs u Nylander, Manson will cost u more than he should as the ducks gm loves him. Overall not worth it and expensive

In general going for more depth is better overall and gaining 2 solid RHD off free agency is significantly better than just trading for a big name at the cost of Nylander.


Savard, Manson, Pesce none of those guys will cost Nylander and if Carolina asks Nylander for Pesce that's just an overvaluation on behalf of Carolina because no one is giving up a potential star right winger for a Defenceman who has had a bad season and injury. And signing Hamonic and DeMelo isn't good enough to push this team over the top they would just be really safe signings with not a lot of upside for the team and we know Dubas likes players with upside. I could see Dubas signing DeMelo but it's gotta be a lil cheaper probably
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Savard, Manson, Pesce none of those guys will cost Nylander and if Carolina asks Nylander for Pesce that's just an overvaluation on behalf of Carolina because no one is giving up a potential star right winger for a Defenceman who has had a bad season and injury. And signing Hamonic and DeMelo isn't good enough to push this team over the top they would just be really safe signings with not a lot of upside for the team and we know Dubas likes players with upside. I wouldn't be opposed to one of them but signing both wouldn't make sense


Pesce will cost u Nylander just ask any canes fan. And it makes sense his contract and defensive skillset is very good and canes really have no reason to move him. If you want to get him you got to pay for him and that cost is Nylander.

Manson and Savard will cost more than they should to move. In general why lose a pick in a trade for those 2 when u could just sign Hamonic for free.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Pesce will cost u Nylander just ask any canes fan. And it makes sense his contract is very good and canes really have no reason to move him.

Manson and Savard will cost more than they should to move. In general why lose a pick in a trade for those 2 when u could just sign Hamonic for free.


Idk Hamonic is a good defenceman but he's already 30 and players like him generally fall off pretty quickly. When you got cap issues like the Leafs you gotta make every dollar count and I don't think Hamonic is gonna provide enough value going forward it could backfire on them. I wouldn't mind DeMelo but he's gotta come cheaper because he doesn't have a lot of upside as a player otherwise it isn't really worth it
 
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