I'd rather send Zadorov to new jersey or Detroit or somewhere out east. I've seen NJD fans offer 2nd +3rd/4th for him a lot which I think is fair value, plus he goes out of the central

Jets add a 3rd and get back erne, if you want helm you will have to add more

How about the jets add Stanley and Detroit retains a bit. So:
Perreault and Stanley for helm (850k retained)

We think alike, time to bring in some grit and local talent, would have tried to squeeze Calvert out of Col. Maybe Dalhstrom could be sent to COL.

Helm at 50% for perrault, Stanley and a 2022 3rd rounder works for me

Maybe less retention and no pick. Stanley should be enough imo. If not, we sign a 4c and move perreault elsewhere.

By themselves, perreault and helm are about the same value

Wings can retain 50% at the deadline and get at least a 3rd. Perrault is a cap dump and would cost at least a 3rd to move and stanley doesn't look like he's going to be an nhl player.

Wings have no cap issues so for them they can hold helm till the deadline when he would cost virtually nothing, jets need cap space so would be forced to move an asset to move Perrault

I guess if no 3rd then you can look elsewhere, wings aren't taking cap hits from other teams unless compensated

COL isn’t sending Z to a division rival unless it’s an over pay and a 2nd isn’t anywhere close to an overpay.

Wouldn't bother with the Helm trade, he's hurt all the time, I'd demote Perreault and sign a cheap 4C, a guy like Derek Grant would be good, Colin Wilson would be a good cheap veteran signing as well.

Also no this team isn't a contender.

Fair enough. I personally think you could get more for perreault retained at the deadline than helm. So if this trade isn’t close to a one for one, the jets look elsewhere. They could even retain half and some team would probably be willing to take him. Then sign a 4c with the money saved

Why do you say that? Imo the defence is good. The goaltending is obviously good. And finally the offence is good (save for the 2c issue). I think if stastny can be a 50 or centre, they are a contender. If not, I woudl move Roslovic+ for a 2c at the tdl. Maybe a Philip danault type

The defense is improved yes, goaltending should be fine but this forward group is too small, lacks grit and overall this team lacks an element of nasty that's needed to win in the playoffs.
Need a 4th line like the Islanders have, need a better 3C and I wonder if Stastny isn't in decline, not sure if he'll be all that good by next season.
Idk, maybe some of the young guys like Roslovic and Harkins take a big step next season but if not I don't see what's constructed here as a contender.
Playoff team sure and could maybe win a round but not a contender no.

Keep in mind that this is the same forward group that went to the wcf in 2018 (except for armia who is replaced by Roslovic). I think the main reason they were pushed around by Calgary was the size on defense not offense. I don’t think the forwards are a problem at all when it comes to size.

Maybe sign a bruiser centre (much like Lowry) instead of trading for helm? Would that clear you doubts? Any players in mind? Riley sheahan?

I think harkins is a lot like armia (just not that big). The skill and speed are there, but he will still only be a middle six guy. Appleton is a bigger and better Tanev imo. And Roslovic is just another copp at this point in terms of physicality. My point is that I do not think this forward group is small. In fact, it’s one of the more feisty groups in the league imo.

As for stastny I agree. However, from what I’ve seen of him this playoffs, it’s not really that he’s been in decline as much that he isn’t surrounded by the pure goal scorers he needs to produce. Yes he has declined a bit, but not much. I think he can still be an effective stop gap option. And who knows, with maurice starting to give Roslovic centre time, maybe he breaks out as 2c and the jets are all the much stronger. If not, I think standby could still put up 50 pts with any combination of our top 6 (though I think wheeler and Connor will be bumped down to the 2nd line now so he plays with them).

That’s just my opinion. Imo the improvement to defence alone makes them a top team. Hopefully stastny can play the 2c role and push them to contender status. Imo, 2c is their only hole.

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Leafs don't need his rights. There is a dozen options for RHD this year. If DeMelo doesn't work (but I actually think he does) then there is guys like Gudas in Free agency or someone like Severson in a trade. No need to throw away an asset for that.

keep the assets and just bring back Demelo, he's way better than Severson anyway

I disagree. Severson is much better than most think defensively and has that big shot we’ve been missing on the 1st pp. I do this over bringing demelo back any day (no knock on demelo)

He had a good year this year (~1 STD above average in RAPM xGA iirc) but before had been average to below average (and Demelo has been like 2-2.5 STD's above average for the last few years)

Severson has been the number one guy in New Jersey for quite a few years. Also I know demelo is better defensively. Severson is just better all round. I’m adding zadorov here for defense and more physicality. I personally like this a lot more than brining back demelo. Obviously I don’t mind demelo, but this makes the jets a better team imo.

Well you're more optimistic then I am... 😂

That's not enough to get Severson.

This team needs a 4th line like the Islanders have.

DeMelo is small and slow, Severson would be an upgrade.

What would you add to get him?

Idk what'd it take, really I doubt the Devils have any interest in moving Severson, he's their best dman, there'd need to be something else pretty good going with that 1st and Niku for the Devils to even consider it and their new GM had a great TDL, he doesn't seem like a fool, probably best if Chevy doesn’t call him... 😂

Idk, I’ve seen a few rumours that the devils management has soured on him. Idk how accurate they are but still. I woudl be willing to replace spacek with a 3rd or even a 2nd though.