@tsyls @PatrikLaine

IDK, just spitballing here

Really don’t think the jets would do that. Ehlers is better than debrincat, roslovic could easily end up being better than strome. Keith is in his late 30s and don’t think adds that much value. On top of that Winnipeg’s first is shockingly ahead of Chicago’s cuz playins. So yeah would be massive win for hawks but not sure how it could happen

You didn't sign Roslovic though, who would be a better 3C than Galchenyuk.

I could see them doing a deal like that, but not with Ehlers. Either a Roslovic-Vesalainen-Niku package with a 2nd-1st rounder but no way they trade Ehlers or Laine for that matter.

Rosolovic can be easily better then Strome? Ummm, not sure where you're gathering that idea from, there is a pretty big gap there and Rosolovic is at best a 3rd liner at this point in his career, don't see him being much more then that. Strome is clearly a 2C. The difference in picks is #17 to #10; 7 spots.

Yes, I'll swap them but Rosolovic is not looking like a center which is concerning but nonetheless, thank you

I think that big trade needs to be broken down and simplified. Too many pieces moving around.

Roslovic is playing sheltered minutes in a deep Winnipeg forward group where he wasn’t being looked to as a primary scoring option. He’s also developed a stellar two way game and has improved steadily. Strome is obviously the better player right now but far more inconsistent. I certainly don’t think the gap between them justifies giving up ehlers and vesalainen for debtincat and Keith AND moving down in the draft

Jets say no

Not a fan of it for the hawks. Kieth won't waive first of all, but we'll assume he would for the sake of the post. Strome+Cat for Ehnlers+Roslovic majorily favors WPG in my opinion. I don't see the sense in the hawks doing this. Ehlers is a mior upgrade over cat and Strome to roslovic is a large downgrade. Then it's Vesalinen+moving up 5 spots in the draft for Kieth (with 1 mil retention for 3 years).Kieth won't waive, but we are better off keeping him as a mentor to the young guys anyways. He's a lot better and has a lot more expierience than Dehaan and Maata, and the cost is only 1 mil more (it's even if you take into account the retention). I think we are better off keeping Cat and Strome, but if one has to go it should be strome for another roster player. Maybe we use strome to get another 1st and then send it to tampa in a package for Sergachev? then you would buyout/trade maata and dump dehaan wherever you can. Idk if that would work or not but I think that's more along the path we should be on then the one presented in this trade imo.

A deep winger group, not deep forward group. Jets have a major hole at the center position and roslovic isn't good enough to fill it despite being drafted as a center. Strome was drafted the #3OA in 2015, the same year Roslovic was drafted #26OA...that's a big gap in draft positions and nothing Roslovic has done thus far suggests that gap has closed. Alternatively, Strome in his young career since joining the blackhawks has put up .77ppg after being mismanaged by Arizona as most of us know. Roslovic is at .37ppg; yes there is a really big gap between the two players. To give an idea of how bad the trade gap is, if the Jets wanted just Strome and wanted to move Roslovic as part of the package, the Jets would have to include a 1st round pick just to entice the Hawks to have any interest.

Regarding time on ice, in case you're interested, Strome averaged exactly 1 minute more per game this season then Rosolovic

I disagree on Keith waiving. The one place he would waive is Winnepeg to go back home where his kids are since he keeps a home there and goes there for the offseason.

I agree on Ehlers and Rosolovic favors the Jets over Debrincat and Strome; wasn't looking at it that way. Ehlers, Vasalainen for Debrincat and Keith and Rosolovic plus moving up 7 spots in the draft for Strome is how I was looking at it.

I still think we're better off with the guys we have. Trading kieth makes our LD even worse, and unless he asked for a trade to WPG, probably wouldn't go over well with Toews and Kane eigther

Keith is a bit a lone soldier and always has been pretty much. I don't think it would phase Kane and Toews much understanding it's a business and his ties to the Jets. Keith is clearly not enamored with the new system JC is pushing on defense and pretty blantantly disregards it. Now, getting that "stuff" out of the way and getting down to actual impact, the bigger concern is it does weaken our left side of the defense for now and there is no question about it. However, also puts Sanderson potentially in play in the draft and as we all know, we do not have a clear #1 on the left side today (Keith is not it anymore) nor do we have a prospect that is slotted for the #1 job as Beaudin, Vlasic, Carlsson and Kalynuk are all bottom 2 line guys.

I guess I would be open to trading kieth to WPG for futures in a package we could use for a true #1. As i've mentioned, Sergachev comes to mind as a guy we need to target if available. If we could get Kieth to WPG for a pick or a propect, trade strome for picks/prospects. We could package those assets up to Tampa for Sergachev without having to give Beaudan. The left side of Sergachev, Beaudan, and Vlasic/Carlson looks pretty good. Just an idea. But Sergachev would be a huge aquisition for the hawks, and I can't see how Tampa keeps him while already paying big bucks to Hedman and McDonough on the left side.

Sanderson does not have the potential to be a 1LD.