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Horney Enough to Solidify the D

Créé par: mjmim
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2020
Publié: 19 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 000 000 $
2850 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
68 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
VGK
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Ryan, Derek (300 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2021
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de ANA
2022
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $79 715 175 $0 $850 000 $1 784 825 $

Formation

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Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 940 000 $2 940 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 825 000 $2 825 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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19 sept. 2020 à 13 h 8
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Probably rather keep Ryan than take on a cap dump in Hornqvist
19 sept. 2020 à 13 h 9
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Quoting: ItWasIn
Probably rather keep Ryan than take on a cap dump in Hornqvist


I would not describe Hornqvist as a “cap dump”

That’s a legit player on a meh contract. Not some scrub on a **** one
19 sept. 2020 à 13 h 14
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I would not describe Hornqvist as a “cap dump”

That’s a legit player on a meh contract. Not some scrub on a **** one


The cap might not go up for 5 years.

5.35 for a 33 year old power forward is a cap dump. Call it what it is
19 sept. 2020 à 13 h 52
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The cap might not go up for 5 years.

5.35 for a 33 year old power forward is a cap dump. Call it what it is


He’s still worth his deal, that’s the amount he would get in free agency

A player being older and having a higher cap number doesn’t automatically make them a cap dump

He’s signed for three more seasons, not until he’s 40

He might not be great the last year but he would produce as a #2RW on Calgary for at least two seasons
19 sept. 2020 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
He’s still worth his deal, that’s the amount he would get in free agency

A player being older and having a higher cap number doesn’t automatically make them a cap dump

He’s signed for three more seasons, not until he’s 40

He might not be great the last year but he would produce as a #2RW on Calgary for at least two seasons


Taking on a Hornqvist will significantly hamper the Flames chances to keep Gaudreau and to extend Tkachuk. You have to remember that they already have 5.2 mill wasted on Lucic and another 3 in buyouts. They aren’t in any position to take on players that aren’t playing to their contracts. Mangiapane can put up the same numbers or better for far cheaper than Hornqvist
19 sept. 2020 à 15 h 45
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Not sure on that value, but I can tell you VGK will be the last team to take that cap dump lol
19 sept. 2020 à 16 h 11
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Probably rather keep Ryan than take on a cap dump in Hornqvist

Horny is no cap dump. He is probably the best in the business at what he does. Discussed this option on HFBoards and it was pretty well accepted. He just does not mesh well with Sid or Geno but would for sure be top six with other centres and is a nightmare for goalies...
19 sept. 2020 à 16 h 12
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Quoting: VGKNation702
Not sure on that value, but I can tell you VGK will be the last team to take that cap dump lol

Come on man, help a guy out!
Who would take him for picks? And what picks would need to be sacrificed (be realistic please).
19 sept. 2020 à 18 h 3
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Taking on a Hornqvist will significantly hamper the Flames chances to keep Gaudreau and to extend Tkachuk. You have to remember that they already have 5.2 mill wasted on Lucic and another 3 in buyouts. They aren’t in any position to take on players that aren’t playing to their contracts. Mangiapane can put up the same numbers or better for far cheaper than Hornqvist


Was not arguing that Calgary should take him, I understand the perspective that he doesn't make sense for their roster as is

Just making the point that he's not a true cap dump, which you explicitly said:
"5.35 for a 33 year old power forward is a cap dump. Call it what it is"
ItWasIn et GuentzelvaniaUSA a aimé ceci.
 
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