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Nylander

Créé par: Wadejos123
Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2020
Publié: 19 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
14 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Nylander, William
Détails additionnels:
Leafs clear around 6 mil in cap to go towards Peitragelo. Saad is a cup champ that can fill in nylanders role in the top 6 and help the leafs play better playoff hockey, murphy is a big upgrade over dermott and the hawks take back Johnson to help TOR clear salary. Leafs would have a real defence after this trade:
Riely-Peitragelo
Muzzin-Murphy
Sandin-Holl
TOR
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Saad, Brandon (3 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
17th OA
2.
CHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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RFA - 1
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 49
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I don't think that's necessarily a bad move for a contending team, but your defense is basically about to die of old age alone - I wouldn't bank on competing and letting go of that 1st rounder.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 51
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I definitely think Nylander is worth more than that, Toronto would be looking for a top 4 right shot D IF they traded him. Even if they were planning on signing Petro I think they would get more back for Nylander.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 52
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I definitely think Nylander is worth more than that, Toronto would be looking for a top 4 right shot D IF they traded him. Even if they were planning on signing Petro I think they would get more back for Nylander.


Murphy is literally a top 4 RHD, this is honestly too good of a deal for them.
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Quoting: MelonVK
I don't think that's necessarily a bad move for a contending team, but your defense is basically about to die of old age alone - I wouldn't bank on competing and letting go of that 1st rounder.


what? You know Dermott, Mitchell and Boqvist are all under 24 right?
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Murphy is literally a top 4 RHD, this is honestly too good of a deal for them.


Dermott = Second
Saad = Johnsson
Nylander >> 17th overall and murphy
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: MelonVK
I don't think that's necessarily a bad move for a contending team, but your defense is basically about to die of old age alone - I wouldn't bank on competing and letting go of that 1st rounder.


Boqvist, Mitchell, dermott,carlson, krys, kalynuk regula, vlasic, beaudan would all be 23 or younger. Hawks would have plenty of young defenceman. Nowhere near "dying of old age"
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Dermott = Second
Saad = Johnsson
Nylander >> 17th overall and murphy


I mean Saad> Johnsson but yes, this doesn't cut it really
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 54
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Quoting: blizzie99
I definitely think Nylander is worth more than that, Toronto would be looking for a top 4 right shot D IF they traded him. Even if they were planning on signing Petro I think they would get more back for Nylander.


Murphy is a top 4 right shot. He can play your #1 PK and he's on a great contract. This is a good deal for both sides IMO.
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Dermott = Second
Saad = Johnsson
Nylander >> 17th overall and murphy


Saad>>>>>johnson. Especially saad at half price
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Murphy is literally a top 4 RHD, this is honestly too good of a deal for them.


have to overpay a bit to not get crucified by leafs fans, which it appears is still happening anyways
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 55
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This is a good deal tbh
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 56
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Saad>>>>>johnson. Especially saad at half price


Well I don't think this is a bad offer at all but if were trading Nylander we better get a really good RH defenseman that is worth it. Murphy is good but not that
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 57
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Murphy is literally a top 4 RHD, this is honestly too good of a deal for them.


Sorry I'm not too familiar with him. Wouldn't the Hawks want to keep him then? The Hawks don't have great D
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 59
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Doubt would get both those picks and retained money that just seems too much.
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19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 2
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I just can’t wrap my head around it. Nylander is the only piece that’s really worth looking at considering the pieces Chicago is giving up. If I was a Chicago fan I’d be quickly saying no can do far better with that collection of assets.
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Sorry I'm not too familiar with him. Wouldn't the Hawks want to keep him then? The Hawks don't have great D


Seabrook's anchor of a contract isn't going anywhere any time soon so thats 1 of our 3 RHD spots. Boqvist played top pair with Kieth last year and looks like he's going to be pretty good. Also was a top 10 pick. Thats the 2nd RH spot. Then Ian Mitchell is the last RD spot. 2nd round pick from 2016. Just signed his ELC after he was the Captain at U of Denver. Looks like he's going to be quite good. Hawks would love to keep Murphy but realistically we need to clear the ice time to develop the kids. We also have Regula who is over a ppg at a defenceman in london in the OHL. Looks to be a 3rd pair/possibly 2nd pair guy of the future as well.
19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 3
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I just can’t wrap my head around it. Nylander is the only piece that’s really worth looking at considering the pieces Chicago is giving up. If I was a Chicago fan I’d be quickly saying no can do far better with that collection of assets.


Quoting: Timmah007
Doubt would get both those picks and retained money that just seems too much.


And leafs fans still think the offer is bad
19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 4
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Well I don't think this is a bad offer at all but if were trading Nylander we better get a really good RH defenseman that is worth it. Murphy is good but not that


Murphy is really good. Non hawks fans don't see it because they don't watch him enough and just see the stats that he doesn't put up offensive numbers. Murphy makes up for lack of offence with great defence, and TOR wouldn't really need the offence from him anyways, thats what Rielly, Petro, and Muzzin will do.
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what? You know Dermott, Mitchell and Boqvist are all under 24 right?


Yes, and none of those guys are leading the charge. Boqvist is interesting, but it's not some huge young infuse of talent
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Boqvist, Mitchell, dermott,carlson, krys, kalynuk regula, vlasic, beaudan would all be 23 or younger. Hawks would have plenty of young defenceman. Nowhere near "dying of old age"


As far as the minutes absorbing ones go, yes
19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 6
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And leafs fans still think the offer is bad


Ehh I argue with them non stop about johnsson kerfoot and Andersen to oilers thoughts. Seem to think their depth pieces are worth comparable to top 6 forwards or top 4 defenders. It’s a fantasy world that’s going to come crashing down eventually
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I just can’t wrap my head around it. Nylander is the only piece that’s really worth looking at considering the pieces Chicago is giving up. If I was a Chicago fan I’d be quickly saying no can do far better with that collection of assets.


Dermott is 23 with the potential to be a top 4 Dman, and his defense first playstyle would be great alongside either of boqvist or mitchell in the future
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19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 9
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As far as the minutes absorbing ones go, yes


Boqvist and Mitchell will get more and more minutes as they develop. The only thing missing from the hawks defensive prospect pool is a #1 LD, and trading or keeping Murphy doesn't change that
19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 10
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Ehh I argue with them non stop about johnsson kerfoot and Andersen to oilers thoughts. Seem to think their depth pieces are worth comparable to top 6 forwards or top 4 defenders. It’s a fantasy world that’s going to come crashing down eventually


I argued them on them over valuing kapanen, then PIT way overpayed. Currently argue them on Johnson not being good all the time so i'm waitng for some GM to pay a 2nd for him just to make me look bad lol
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19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Murphy is really good. Non hawks fans don't see it because they don't watch him enough and just see the stats that he doesn't put up offensive numbers. Murphy makes up for lack of offence with great defence, and TOR wouldn't really need the offence from him anyways, thats what Rielly, Petro, and Muzzin will do.


looking at his stats now they are actually pretty good. Besides special teams he is actually decent. This wouldn't actually be a horrible return for Nylander.


Quoting: Timmah007
I just can’t wrap my head around it. Nylander is the only piece that’s really worth looking at considering the pieces Chicago is giving up. If I was a Chicago fan I’d be quickly saying no can do far better with that collection of assets.


Funniest sh*t I have heard all day thanks for the laugh
 
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