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Créé par: CJ01
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2020
Publié: 19 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
33 500 000 $
33 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Jankowski, Mark [Droits de RFA]
  3. Tuulola, Eetu
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Red wings need to rebuild witch means they will either not sign there players or will trade them away for picks and prospects. Lucic will keep them about the cap floor.
DET
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Lerby, Carl-Johan
  2. Wolf, Dustin
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
4.
CGY
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (STL)
STL
  1. Kirkland, Justin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
  3. Ruzicka, Adam
5.
CGY
  1. Raffl, Michael (800 000 $ retained)
  2. van Riemsdyk, James (500 000 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
  2. Kinnvall, Johannes
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
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2020
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de SJS
Logo de CGY
Logo de BOS
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2021
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2022
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de STL
Logo de CGY
Logo de ARI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $71 476 666 $0 $457 500 $10 023 334 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
400 000 $400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
G
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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19 sept. 2020 à 8 h 57
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Bruins only move DeBrusk if they have a better LW and it is likely for a top4 LD. Unless you wanna include Hanifin, pass.
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19 sept. 2020 à 8 h 59
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So Lucic waives his NMC for Detroit? Wings don't need any help to get to the cap floor. So now teams are going with a 20 man roster?
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 2
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1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 3
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If Armstrong took that deal, the coyotes should promptly fire him. That’s brutal
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 6
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Dude it's hard to take you serious when you don't even have proper grammar, "Witch means" instead of which means "sign there players" instead of sign their players. First off Lucic isn't waiving to a rebuilding Detroit club and secondly noway are we taking a 2022 1st round pick for Lucic your 2021 1st round pick needs to be attached or you need to add a 2021 2nd on top of it. Either way we have no use for Lucic and we're not doing Calgary any favors here.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 7
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That offer for Dunn is brutal.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 8
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Detroit getting to the cap floor isn't going to be a problem take a look at Detroit's CapFriendly home page. When it comes to Lucic I think this says it all.

Quoting: palhal
So Lucic waives his NMC for Detroit?


Exactly Lucic won't be coming to Detroit.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 11
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FYI Detroit will have no issues getting to the cap floor, I'm getting sick and tired of people on here saying that Detroit could have issues getting to the cap floor. First off Tyler Bertuzzi will get something around 6 x $5,000,000 and Anthony Mantha 7 x $7,000,000 or so and probably Torey Krug around 7 x $8,000,000 that's already $20,000,000 right there on top of our $46,000,000 commitment we're already past the cap floor it wont be an issue.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 13
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit getting to the cap floor isn't going to be a problem take a look at Detroit's CapFriendly home page. When it comes to Lucic I think this says it all.



Exactly Lucic won't be coming to Detroit.


The other thing to consider when send "dead cap" to a team is this. The players and fans on Lucic's (name the player) don't a dead weight cap on the team long term. You've told your fans and other players, we don't care about trying to be good now. Yea I can see one year of a cap dump but not multiple years.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 17
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


Im kinda confused how marleau has anything to do with lucic? Very different deals for one marleau didn’t play a game for Carolina lucic would soooo that comparable is tossed out the window instantly. What Toronto did that one time needs to stop being used as a comparable. A one time deal that was obviously a very stupid expensive mistake doesn’t suddenly change market value on actual player transaction.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 32
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


In what world can looch not play hockey? Pretty sure your the one with the bad valuation. Lucic probably makes every starting roster in the league except Tampa (and Edmonton) if it wasn't for his contract. His on ice contribution is positive value, he was a positive corsi player and very positive GAR player this season. Bad take and a half here
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 35
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I thought Lucic played well in the bubble playoff, albeit briefly. His line with Bennett and Dube was their best line IMO. Maybe Detroit could retain cap to facilitate Lucic going somewhere else in a 3 team deal in exchange for assets.

Quoting: Timmah007
Im kinda confused how marleau has anything to do with lucic? Very different deals for one marleau didn’t play a game for Carolina lucic would soooo that comparable is tossed out the window instantly. What Toronto did that one time needs to stop being used as a comparable. A one time deal that was obviously a very stupid expensive mistake doesn’t suddenly change market value on actual player transaction.

I agree not every cap dump needs to be using Marleau trade as a base. If anything, teams might see what happened in that scenario and be scared off by making such a move. But also, gotta think in the current economic climate the teams are dealing in, its not going to be cheap by any means to dump contracts, and conceivable could take more depending on the contract.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 38
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
In what world can looch not play hockey? Pretty sure your the one with the bad valuation. Lucic probably makes every starting roster in the league except Tampa (and Edmonton) if it wasn't for his contract. His on ice contribution is positive value, he was a positive corsi player and very positive GAR player this season. Bad take and a half here


Yeah, that's off, Lucic is a good 4th liner. Just play him there instead of playing him on the 3rd and wanting him to be a 3rd liner. Marleau sucked for Pittsburgh in the qualifiers.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 39
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
I thought Lucic played well in the bubble playoff, albeit briefly. Maybe Detroit could retain cap to facilitate Lucic going somewhere else in a 3 team deal in exchange for assets.

I agree not every cap dump needs to be using Marleau trade as a base. If anything, teams might see what happened in that scenario and be scared off by making such a move. But also, gotta think in the current economic climate the teams are dealing in, its not going to be cheap by any means to dump contracts, and conceivable could take more depending on the contract.

I doubt flames will be able to move him but I just hate seeing that one unique situation as a comparable. Sooo many reasons why it shouldn’t be but because people can’t seem to understand that seems anyone making over 5 million needs a first attached to trade.
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 40
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Quoting: palhal
The other thing to consider when send "dead cap" to a team is this. The players and fans on Lucic's (name the player) don't a dead weight cap on the team long term. You've told your fans and other players, we don't care about trying to be good now. Yea I can see one year of a cap dump but not multiple years.


The main reason I don't want him in Detroit is he is somewhat unstable and it's someone you want to put in a very young locker room.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 41
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4 right handed shots on the entire roster is a massive yikes Especially when none of them are on the wing. This team will massively fail because of that
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 44
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Yeah, that's off, Lucic is a good 4th liner. Just play him there instead of playing him on the 3rd and wanting him to be a 3rd liner. Marleau sucked for Pittsburgh in the qualifiers.


Realistically he is the same caliber player as Reaves and Maroon. Definitely a type of player you want going into the playoffs, he just costs far too much
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 45
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Realistically he is the same caliber player as Reaves and Maroon. Definitely a type of player you want going into the playoffs, he just costs far too much


Definitely more useful than Reaves who only hits and fights
Anyways Lucic wouldn't want to play in that dumpster fire
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 46
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Definitely more useful than Reaves who only hits and fights
Anyways Lucic wouldn't want to play in that dumpster fire


Yeah, no chance he waives.
I expect he will play 2 more seasons with the Flames and waive in his last year or retire
19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 48
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I can see Sweeney making a stupid trade like this.
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19 sept. 2020 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude it's hard to take you serious when you don't even have proper grammar, Witch means instead of which means sign there players instead of sign their players. First off Lucic isn't waiving to a rebuilding Detroit club and secondly noway are we taking a 2022 1st round pick for Lucic your 2021 1st round pick needs to be attached or you need to add a 2021 2nd on top of it. Either way we have no use for Lucic and we're not doing Calgary any favors here.

If you’re going to critique his grammar then at least be grammatically correct yourself and put his offenses in quotes, like you’re supposed to. You should have put “witch means” in quotes along with his other errors.

But I totally agree with you, Detroit certainly doesn’t need Lucic nor should they do that trade. It’s really bad.
19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: will9739
If you’re going to critique his grammar then at least be grammatically correct yourself and put his offenses in quotes, like you’re supposed to. You should have put “witch means” in quotes along with his other errors.

But I totally agree with you, Detroit certainly doesn’t need Lucic nor should they do that trade. It’s really bad.


You're quite right, Took care of it looks better now.
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19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 8
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Don’t see the Red Wings taking Lucic for just one 1st (Marleau got a 1st for the same cap at 1 year) and even if we would accept, Lucic wouldn’t waive for us.
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19 sept. 2020 à 10 h 21
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
You're quite right, Took care of it looks better now.


You’re awesome, man.
 
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