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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 sept. 2020
Publié: 17 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  2. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
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17 sept. 2020 à 17 h 51
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You are gonna get destroyed for this
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As much as I like Domi, if Nylander is moved I would think the D would have a bit better dman returning than Mete.
17 sept. 2020 à 17 h 51
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Your gonna get destroyed for this


Not enough for Nylander.
17 sept. 2020 à 17 h 52
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Ah yes, the cap strapped Leafs really need to aquire *checks notes* a more expensive 3C for one of their best wingers
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17 sept. 2020 à 17 h 56
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As much as I like Domi, if Nylander is moved I would think the D would have a bit better dman returning than Mete.


If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D
17 sept. 2020 à 18 h 5
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this does literally nothing to make the leafs better
17 sept. 2020 à 18 h 5
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If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D


why wouldnt they just trade Nylander for a better defender than what they can get with Domi?
17 sept. 2020 à 18 h 22
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why wouldnt they just trade Nylander for a better defender than what they can get with Domi?


They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price
17 sept. 2020 à 18 h 38
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They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price


No, theyd be much better off with one great d because holl would be perfectly fine behind rielly and that guy with muzzin.
And this trade doesnt fill any holes. Mete isnt good and they can juar use dermott there and domi isna downgrade on Nylander at wing or c
17 sept. 2020 à 19 h 14
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Domi to the Leafs would be cool af, but Dubas wouldn't ship out Nylander. Maybe Kerfoot or Johnsson+Liljegren for Domi+Mete.
17 sept. 2020 à 20 h 13
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If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D


"Easily flip" Cause it's very common to trade a 23 yo $7M 1st liner, and turnaround and flip the main piece they get in return to another team shortly after.

Happens all the time!
17 sept. 2020 à 20 h 16
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They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price


Good plan. Should make it as hard as possible for Sandin and Liljegren to ever crack the lineup.

The Marc Bergevin method is an excellent approach to developing prospects.
18 sept. 2020 à 7 h 11
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Good plan. Should make it as hard as possible for Sandin and Liljegren to ever crack the lineup.

The Marc Bergevin method is an excellent approach to developing prospects.


Window is closing on this team. If they can't earn a spot on the backend they don't deserve it. Can't be handing out spots in the line up
18 sept. 2020 à 8 h 26
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Window is closing on this team. If they can't earn a spot on the backend they don't deserve it. Can't be handing out spots in the line up


"Window is closing". They have 1 raise per year due over the next 3 or 4 years. Relax.
18 sept. 2020 à 12 h 14
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"Window is closing". They have 1 raise per year due over the next 3 or 4 years. Relax.


Which window? 4 years in a row not able to win a round of playoff
18 sept. 2020 à 12 h 23
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Which window? 4 years in a row not able to win a round of playoff


So a core group has about a 3 yr window to win before being blown up, no matter the age of that group?

Interesting..... I guess TB, Was, etc. didn't get that memo the last few years as each group had a ****load of playoff failures over the years, and their cores have remained intact for a lot longer than the Leafs.
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So a core group has about a 3 yr window to win before being blown up, no matter the age of that group?

Interesting..... I guess TB, Was, etc. didn't get that memo the last few years as each group had a ****load of playoff failures over the years, and their cores have remained intact for a lot longer than the Leafs.


You’re right but I’m just saying they have to keep 3 of their 4 best foward. They have to relook at their « core » and improve their defense
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You’re right but I’m just saying they have to keep 3 of their 4 best foward. They have to relook at their « core » and improve their defense


The problem is the only moveable one is the one most likely to be able to outplay his contract. Obv. Matthews/Tavares aren't being moved. 99% chance Marner isn't being moved.

So that leaves Nylander, who's on a reasonable contract and happens to excel more than pretty well any Leaf forward at the style that Dubas/Keefe want to play. Transition, puck possession, etc.

So I really can't see them moving him.

Right or wrong (there's 30 wrong GMs every year), this team is what it is. Between drafting (they obv hit HRs with Matthews, Marner, Nylander) and the JT signing, they are a skill/possession team.

They're spending up front and the hope is to have competent defence (mainly through draft) that moves the puck to those forwards as fast as possible. As much flak as Dubas gets about having a type, I believe him when he says he's after another Muzzin. Leafs ideally want to add skill, size, bite with every player they bring in to compliment the core. We'll see in a month or 2 if they can pull it off.

IMO a Liljegren plus for Cernak deal makes a lot of sense. Weegar/Manson could be some other targets.

Rielly - Cernak (would by far be the best consistent D partner that Rielly has ever had)
Muzz - Dermott/Holl
Sandin - Dermott/Holl
Lehtonen

I could be out to lunch, but to me this looks like a good group today, and has some potential going forward. You would hope Rielly can look like he did a year ago being healthy again, and put up another Top 5 in Norris campaign. I have faith in Dermott, his strengths are exactly what this team needs, but it would be make or break time for him, and bring Sandin along slowly and hopefully this year and next he can contribute solid minutes on an ELC.

Every pairing has speed, skill, some size, and can move the puck.

Add a bit more veteran sandpaper to bottom of the lineup with a Simmonds/Perry type, maybe some more grit on the 4th line and personally I'd be happy with that off-season.

This team is still young enough that the main way they improve is through player progression.
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The problem is the only moveable one is the one most likely to be able to outplay his contract. Obv. Matthews/Tavares aren't being moved. 99% chance Marner isn't being moved.

Interesting ! Good analysis. I’m not convinced it’s enough for cernak. Maybe Robertson + liljegren

So that leaves Nylander, who's on a reasonable contract and happens to excel more than pretty well any Leaf forward at the style that Dubas/Keefe want to play. Transition, puck possession, etc.

So I really can't see them moving him.

Right or wrong (there's 30 wrong GMs every year), this team is what it is. Between drafting (they obv hit HRs with Matthews, Marner, Nylander) and the JT signing, they are a skill/possession team.

They're spending up front and the hope is to have competent defence (mainly through draft) that moves the puck to those forwards as fast as possible. As much flak as Dubas gets about having a type, I believe him when he says he's after another Muzzin. Leafs ideally want to add skill, size, bite with every player they bring in to compliment the core. We'll see in a month or 2 if they can pull it off.

IMO a Liljegren plus for Cernak deal makes a lot of sense. Weegar/Manson could be some other targets.

Rielly - Cernak (would by far be the best consistent D partner that Rielly has ever had)
Muzz - Dermott/Holl
Sandin - Dermott/Holl
Lehtonen

I could be out to lunch, but to me this looks like a good group today, and has some potential going forward. You would hope Rielly can look like he did a year ago being healthy again, and put up another Top 5 in Norris campaign. I have faith in Dermott, his strengths are exactly what this team needs, but it would be make or break time for him, and bring Sandin along slowly and hopefully this year and next he can contribute solid minutes on an ELC.

Every pairing has speed, skill, some size, and can move the puck.

Add a bit more veteran sandpaper to bottom of the lineup with a Simmonds/Perry type, maybe some more grit on the 4th line and personally I'd be happy with that off-season.

This team is still young enough that the main way they improve is through player progression.
 
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