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(MIN/BUF) - Staal for Johansson

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17 sep à 1 h 07
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Quoting: TanSor
Johansson is not a center yet...





This has to be a precursor to another trade. Johansson is a clear downgrade from Staal


So I've got a take, but I don't think Wild fans are going to like it. I think they've maybe identified a guy they think will be a replacement for Staal, but the ask might have included Eriksson Ek. So they trade Staal and get a guy who can replace Ek, and trade Ek for a long term replacement for Staal.

I still don't think that's a good plan, but that's the way I think this maybe plays out? Maybe a situation where Ek is package with Dumba and the big piece for Minny is Monahan? Or maybe they get a guy like Strome or Cirelli?
17 sep à 2 h 07
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Quoting: Laudan
I would say good move for MIN....6 years younger Johansson that will benefit from playing in MIN and 35y old Staal regresing in BUF.....both with 45 Points this Season

Actually thats how you trade someone that you wont sign for the "signing rights" of someone that will be on ice for next 5 years


Johansson did not have 45 points this season.
17 sep à 2 h 40
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Quoting: Jexus
Johansson did not have 45 points this season.


The whole sentence is describing about what it will happen, so this Season means...well...you can figure
17 sep à 2 h 48
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Is this trade made to change the culture in our locker room? Or is it to free a spot on 1C, because it feels like Guerin traded Staal just for the sake of trading Staal. I think Guerin took his first L on the trade market here...
17 sep à 4 h 30
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Quoting: kaljakori
Where's the option for both teams losing this trade? Stall won't be a long-term solution for the Sabres and Mojo is yet another mid-6 forward for the Wild, which is the least of their concern.


The Sabres have Cozens coming up, Staal is not meant to be a long-term solution
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17 sep à 4 h 33
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So the Sabres got a better player who might land them some picks/prospects at the deadline if their season goes bad again
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17 sep à 6 h 54
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Quoting: DSZ
Plot Twist: Eric Staal forgot to put Buffalo on his no trade list and retires


Maybe with pandemic and bubble cities for the next hockey season he can play for the Sabres but he won't ever have to actually go to Buffalo
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17 sep à 8 h 22
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Guerin did this just to rub it in Rutherford's face. "I made you retain 50% on Bjugstad, but gave Buffalo the 3C that you keep saying that you are looking for... HAHAHAHAHA"
17 sep à 8 h 37
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
So I've got a take, but I don't think Wild fans are going to like it. I think they've maybe identified a guy they think will be a replacement for Staal, but the ask might have included Eriksson Ek. So they trade Staal and get a guy who can replace Ek, and trade Ek for a long term replacement for Staal.

I still don't think that's a good plan, but that's the way I think this maybe plays out? Maybe a situation where Ek is package with Dumba and the big piece for Minny is Monahan? Or maybe they get a guy like Strome or Cirelli?


Potentially. I don't necessarily hate the idea of moving Ek as long as we get a center that belongs on the top line (like Cirelli). I mean I'd rather we keep him since I think you need guys like him in the playoffs, but if he fixes our 1C then I wouldn't be too fussed about losing him as long as it's not a ridiculous overpayment.
17 sep à 8 h 53
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Quoting: Laudan
The whole sentence is describing about what it will happen, so this Season means...well...you can figure


Ah sorry. Your english threw me off. No worries.
17 sep à 10 h 02
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Wild's centre depth is weak at the moment
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18 sep à 1 h 40
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Modifié 18 sep à 1 h 47
I'm curious as to what this trade says about Casey Mittelstadt and where he fits in to the team's plans for next season. Does he still project as a top six Center? I think it's looking like Eichel and Cozens right now. There was a reason Mittelstadt fell to #8 when he was projected as high as #3.
18 sep à 1 h 47
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Quoting: Brian2016
I'm curious as to what this trade says about Casey Mittelstadt and where he fits in to the team's plans for next season. Does he still project as a top six Center? I think it's looking like Eichel and Cozens right now. There was a reason Mittelstadt fell to #7 when he was projected as high as #3.


Apparently it's looking like:

Eichel
Staal
Cozens

So unless Mittelstatd is going to play 4th line center or the wing, he doesn't fit.
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18 sep à 1 h 56
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Apparently it's looking like:

Eichel
Staal
Cozens

So unless Mittelstatd is going to play 4th line center or the wing, he doesn't fit.


What's his trade value at this point? I'm not even sure they can move him at this point. They're obviously still in rebuild mode and the fans would go nuts if he was traded for futures, right? I think he could develop into a decent 2nd or 3rd line Winger, but he needs to bulk up and toughen up. He's way too soft. But, he has tons of skill. His game just doesn't seem to be translating to the NHL.
18 sep à 1 h 58
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Quoting: Brian2016
What's his trade value at this point? I'm not even sure they can move him at this point. They're obviously still in rebuild mode and the fans would go nuts if he was traded for futures, right? I think he could develop into a decent 2nd or 3rd line Winger, but he needs to bulk up and toughen up. He's way too soft. But, he has tons of skill. His game just doesn't seem to be translating to the NHL.


I don't really watch him play nor do I know his potential. At this point he's still 21 and at best a 4th line center ATM. I'd say like a 2nd round pick or maybe swap him for a similar prospect?
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18 sep à 5 h 53
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Apparently it's looking like:

Eichel
Staal
Cozens

So unless Mittelstatd is going to play 4th line center or the wing, he doesn't fit.


Quoting: Brian2016
What's his trade value at this point? I'm not even sure they can move him at this point. They're obviously still in rebuild mode and the fans would go nuts if he was traded for futures, right? I think he could develop into a decent 2nd or 3rd line Winger, but he needs to bulk up and toughen up. He's way too soft. But, he has tons of skill. His game just doesn't seem to be translating to the NHL.


He's starting in the AHL. If he pushes In, Cozens goes to RW.
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20 sep à 12 h 00
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Staal is going to be 36. Wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota wins this long-term.
21 sep à 11 h 44
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Quoting: DDoverChucky
Staal is going to be 36. Wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota wins this long-term.


If he wakes up Skinner for a season long term doesn't matter. Plus it's give Cozens an extra year of development. and gives the culture in Buffalo a shot in the arm.
21 sep à 12 h 37
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Quoting: Rangsey
If he wakes up Skinner for a season long term doesn't matter. Plus it's give Cozens an extra year of development. and gives the culture in Buffalo a shot in the arm.


Culture starts at the top. Guys like Lamoriello and Trotz can create a great culture. Whoever Buffalo has I have doubts
21 sep à 13 h 07
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Quoting: DDoverChucky
Culture starts at the top. Guys like Lamoriello and Trotz can create a great culture. Whoever Buffalo has I have doubts


Yeah. But it's the guys at the top who make moves to bring in guys like Staal to change the culture in the room.
 
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