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2021 Season- is this fair value for Manson considering Anaheim rebuild

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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 sept. 2020
Publié: 16 sept. 2020
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  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  3. Johnsson, Andreas
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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16 sept. 2020 à 17 h 54
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id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.
16 sept. 2020 à 17 h 56
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other teams will find more value in those players than the ducks will.
16 sept. 2020 à 17 h 59
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other teams will find more value in those players than the ducks will.


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id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.


as a leafs fan, i don’t want to give up any of those assets for Manson.
i’d maybe do SDA and a 2nd. buts that’s about it.
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16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 1
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id prefer either the 15th overall from this year, nexts years first and a 2nd or 3rd, or liljegren and a second.


Are you suggesting 2020 #15OA, 2021 1st round pick plus a 2nd or a 3rd is fair value for Manson?
Or Lilly and a 2nd? In your eyes is Lilly equivalent to two 1st round picks? Because thats the change between the two trades.

Im struggling to understand the logic here, that seems like a serious over pay for Manson
16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 2
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We don’t need / want these scraps for our only good RHD
16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 3
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as a leafs fan, i don’t want to give up any of those assets for Manson.
i’d maybe do SDA and a 2nd. buts that’s about it.


I agree, i tried to overpay in order to push the trade through, i think we could keep Dermott realistically
16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 5
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We don’t need / want these scraps for our only good RHD


You are undervaluing the leafs players. top 6 LW, Bottom 4 LD with good potential, top 5 prospect, 2nd round pick. Anaheim is in need of a rebuild and these players fit every slot. Active players, future player and a draft pick
16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 6
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Are you suggesting 2020 #15OA, 2021 1st round pick plus a 2nd or a 3rd is fair value for Manson?
Or Lilly and a 2nd? In your eyes is Lilly equivalent to two 1st round picks? Because thats the change between the two trades.

Im struggling to understand the logic here, that seems like a serious over pay for Manson


i forgot to put an "or"
15th overall OR 2021 1st and a 2nd/3rd
16 sept. 2020 à 18 h 58
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I agree, i tried to overpay in order to push the trade through, i think we could keep Dermott realistically


while an upgrade to the blue line would help, we still have to see how lehtonen does. Dermott will get better, he’s still young. Liljegren and Sandin will be top 4 guys in 1-2 years.
Use the 15th pick to draft a RHD or a pretty good forward.
 
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