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Mr Zs Wild Ride

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Date de création initiale: sep 13, 2020
Publié: 16 sep à 15 h 13
Équipe: 2020-21 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Explications
I'm adopting a trade suggested by Mr Z to see what it looks like from the Arizona side.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Westerlund, Filip3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Hinostroza, Vinnie32 000 000 $
Lyubushkin, Ilya31 750 000 $
Mete, Victor21 500 000 $
Fischer, Christian2900 000 $
Capobianco, Kyle2800 000 $
Hill, Adin2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Richardson, Brad11 250 000 $
Transactions
ARI
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  4. Fleury, Cale
  5. 2021 2e round pick (MTL)
  6. 2022 2e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Grabner, Michael
ARI
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
2020 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Raanta, Antti
ARI
    2020 2nd round pick (WIN)
    WPG
    1. Stepan, Derek (3 250 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    2020 4th round pick (ARI)
    ARI
      ANA
      1. 2021 1e round pick (ARI)
      Pick forfeited due to draft combine misconduct
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Derek Stepan: 3 250 000 $ (50%)
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      ARI
      MTL
      ARI
      PIT
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      2022
      ARI
      ARI
      MTL
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      2023
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      ARI
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $73 286 950 $196 951 $2 620 000 $8 213 050 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      ARI
      Keller, Clayton
      7 150 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 8
      MTL
      Danault, Phillip
      3 083 333 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      ARI
      Kessel, Phil
      6 800 000 $
      AD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 2
      ARI
      Dvorak, Christian
      4 450 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 5
      ARI
      Schmaltz, Nick
      5 850 000 $
      C
      UFA - 6
      ARI
      Garland, Conor
      775 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      ARI
      Crouse, Lawson
      1 533 333 $
      AG
      RFA - 2
      ARI
      Hayton, Barrett
      894 167 $
      C
      RFA - 2
      ARI
      Hinostroza, Vinnie
      2 000 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
      BUF
      Asplund, Rasmus
      845 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Poehling, Ryan
      925 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      ARI
      Fischer, Christian
      900 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 2
      ARI
      Richardson, Brad
      1 250 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      ARI
      Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
      8 250 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      ARI
      Demers, Jason
      3 937 500 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      ARI
      Kuemper, Darcy
      4 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      ARI
      Hjalmarsson, Niklas
      5 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      ARI
      Goligoski, Alex
      5 475 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      ARI
      Hill, Adin
      800 000 $
      G
      RFA - 1
      ARI
      Oesterle, Jordan
      1 400 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      ARI
      Lyubushkin, Ilya
      1 750 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Mete, Victor
      1 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Fleury, Cale
      771 666 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      ARI
      Hossa, Marián
      5 275 000 $
      AD
      NMC
      UFA - 1

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      16 sep à 15 h 19
      #1
      Rejoint: fév 2019
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      Jacob Chychrun is not worth that... He is good but not for that package. Plus you are adding cap dump with him.
      16 sep à 15 h 26
      #2
      Rejoint: avr 2019
      Messages: 524
      Mentions "j'aime": 242
      Quoting: clapperzzz11
      Jacob Chychrun is not worth that... He is good but not for that package. Plus you are adding cap dump with him.


      I mean, it's a lot in term of quantity but beside Danault, nothing here is a big loss for us. Poehling Mete and Fleury all have potential but with pretty low ceilings. The 2nd rounders are far away and picks outside the top 15 are basically lottery tickets. Grabner is one year away from free agency at 3.5, nothing to bad here either. Chychrun is a top4 defensive stud, maybe loose a 2nd round pick or Fleury and I do this trade everyday.
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      16 sep à 15 h 31
      #3
      MisstheWhalers
      Rejoint: jan 2019
      Messages: 11,479
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      Even with the retention I wouldn't give the 40th overall pick for Stepan, getting a 4th doesn't change anything, too good of a pick to part with for just another short term piece.
      OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.
      16 sep à 15 h 33
      #4
      Démarrer sujet
      First NY Then LA
      Rejoint: jun 2018
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      Quoting: Daredevil514
      I mean, it's a lot in term of quantity but beside Danault, nothing here is a big loss for us. Poehling Mete and Fleury all have potential but with pretty low ceilings. The 2nd rounders are far away and picks outside the top 15 are basically lottery tickets. Grabner is one year away from free agency at 3.5, nothing to bad here either. Chychrun is a top-4 defensive stud, maybe lose a 2nd round pick or Fleury and I do this trade everyday.


      Agree with you completely. (This is someone else's trade, after all, but it's a good start and pretty close.)
      MisstheWhalers a aimé ceci.
      16 sep à 15 h 34
      #5
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Even with the retention I wouldn't give the 40th overall pick for Stepan, getting a 4th doesn't change anything, too good of a pick to part with for just another short term piece.


      Would your opinion be the same if Little was a physical no-go? (That's the reason why I chose Winnipeg.)
      16 sep à 15 h 42
      #6
      Rejoint: avr 2019
      Messages: 524
      Mentions "j'aime": 242
      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Agree with you completely. (This is someone else's trade, after all, but it's a good start and pretty close.)



      And even if it's an overpay, it would take one to get Chychrun and his beautiful contract out of Arizona (and this is not a big overpay IMO). Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if the yotes wouldn't be interested in that. That's how good he is and how good his contract is. If I were them, I would only include him in a trade for a big time forward even if I have to add.
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      16 sep à 18 h 06
      #7
      Habs_fan
      Rejoint: jui 2020
      Messages: 234
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      Habs don't need D with addition of Edmenson. They need scoring. Maybe explore a Phil Kessel trade. Arizona want to shed salary so could probably get him for cheap.
      16 sep à 18 h 36
      #8
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      Quoting: p1015983
      Habs don't need D with addition of Edmenson. They need scoring. Maybe explore a Phil Kessel trade. Arizona want to shed salary so could probably get him for cheap.


      You don't think Chychrun is better than Chiarot or Kulak, and would be the perfect LD tandem with Edmundson?
      16 sep à 22 h 32
      #9
      MisstheWhalers
      Rejoint: jan 2019
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Would your opinion be the same if Little was a physical no-go? (That's the reason why I chose Winnipeg.)


      Yes it would, I know the Jets are thin at center but I wouldn't trade that pick for Stepan, if Chevy is smart he'll wait some of these GM'S out till they have to basically give a guy away if they need cap space.
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      19 sep à 12 h 28
      #10
      Habs_fan
      Rejoint: jui 2020
      Messages: 234
      Mentions "j'aime": 52
      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      You don't think Chychrun is better than Chiarot or Kulak, and would be the perfect LD tandem with Edmundson?


      The price you would have to pay to get a young dman like Chychrun will be to high for the habs.
       
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