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Créé par: MarkWinnipeg
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2020
Publié: 16 sept. 2020
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As much as I would love to see a big splash by Chevy this is most likely the roster starting in 2020-2021. If Little does go on LTIR they may be forced to make a signing/trade. Or if a JT miller type player is made available mid 20's high upside 2021 1st is the price they'll go for it.

Reasoning:
Adding any major pieces such as Petrangelo (highly unlikely) or one of Strome*2, Cirelli or Domi would involve moving salary out if LIttle is healthy. Cost of moving salary out this off season will be very high most likely. We can take on a 3-4 million UFA and be paid to do it next season most likely.

Flat Salary cap, next off season have more then enough cap space to extend Laine, Pionk, Copp and Poolman if we choose to.

For he expansion draft we are only exposing Harkins, Appleton, Little, Bealiveau, Broisoit, Niku and Stanley. No one I can't live with being chosen.

At the expansion draft they're may be significant upgrades available over Copp, Roslovic and Demelo. Teams won't want to lose those players for nothing if a side deal can't be made with Seattle.

Jets organizations track record of patience with their young players, Laine is trending towards a complete player you don't trade him. Ehlers is a possesion machine on a bargain deal won't be trading him either. Our depth at Right wing isn't great so Roslovic is sticking around and our prospect cupboard isn't exactly full. No matter what they add don't see them winning the cup next season so high picks are off the table, only players they would make a available in my mind.
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 49
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Yeah unfortunately, this is prob what the team is going to look like again, and I would say most likely another top 10 pick next year unless Paul finally figures out how to put his players in good situations
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Just don't feel comfortable with DeMelo as a Top 4. Could fill in the short term if a minor injury would happen but not permanent. I would contact the Hamonic camp first.

Shore @ $750,000 is OK. Beaulieu and Roslovic a little high?

Would like to know the status of Little- is he done? Is he coming back? If he is coming back- when? Absolutely like the guy as we need leadership as Wheeler can't do it by himself. Maurice leans on Wheeler too much. Don't know if Scheifele is captain material but is better suited than Ehlers, Connor, and Laine to wear the "A". Little would have to waive his NTC to be exposed in the expansion draft.
16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 1
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Quoting: bunzy1034
Yeah unfortunately, this is prob what the team is going to look like again, and I would say most likely another top 10 pick next year unless Paul finally figures out how to put his players in good situations


I think they would be on the play off edge, better D core then we started last season with. Helps not having buffs cap held hostage
16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Just don't feel comfortable with DeMelo as a Top 4. Could fill in the short term if a minor injury would happen but not permanent. I would contact the Hamonic camp first.

Shore @ $750,000 is OK. Beaulieu and Roslovic a little high?

Would like to know the status of Little- is he done? Is he coming back? If he is coming back- when? Absolutely like the guy as we need leadership as Wheeler can't do it by himself. Maurice leans on Wheeler too much. Don't know if Scheifele is captain material but is better suited than Ehlers, Connor, and Laine to wear the "A". Little would have to waive his NTC to be exposed in the expansion draft.


no he wouldn't its only players with nmc you have to protect. Ie wheeler
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16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 42
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Just don't feel comfortable with DeMelo as a Top 4. Could fill in the short term if a minor injury would happen but not permanent. I would contact the Hamonic camp first.

Shore @ $750,000 is OK. Beaulieu and Roslovic a little high?

Would like to know the status of Little- is he done? Is he coming back? If he is coming back- when? Absolutely like the guy as we need leadership as Wheeler can't do it by himself. Maurice leans on Wheeler too much. Don't know if Scheifele is captain material but is better suited than Ehlers, Connor, and Laine to wear the "A". Little would have to waive his NTC to be exposed in the expansion draft.


Yeah that's a bit high for Beaulieu but I'd say $2M is about right for Roslovic, he would of broken the 30 point mark if not for the stoppage, could maybe shave a bit off but that seems about right plus it's 3 years, if it's a two or one year deal could bring the AAV down a bit.
16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: Wpgman
Just don't feel comfortable with DeMelo as a Top 4. Could fill in the short term if a minor injury would happen but not permanent. I would contact the Hamonic camp first.

Shore @ $750,000 is OK. Beaulieu and Roslovic a little high?

Would like to know the status of Little- is he done? Is he coming back? If he is coming back- when? Absolutely like the guy as we need leadership as Wheeler can't do it by himself. Maurice leans on Wheeler too much. Don't know if Scheifele is captain material but is better suited than Ehlers, Connor, and Laine to wear the "A". Little would have to waive his NTC to be exposed in the expansion draft.


Came here to ask the exact question: Would you rather have Hamonic or DeMelo? I love both players but I am going to give the edge to Hamonic if I had to choose 1 of the 2. Jets need a lot more size on the back end and Hamonic obviously provides that, is defensively responsible (as is DeMelo) but Hamonic plays with a lot more grit and it doesn't hurt that he would most likely take a bit of a discount to play in his home province.

I will admit, I have been flopping back and forth on which one I would rather target, but I think I have settled on Hamonic.
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no he wouldn't its only players with nmc you have to protect. Ie wheeler


Thanks for the clarification.
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Came here to ask the exact question: Would you rather have Hamonic or DeMelo? I love both players but I am going to give the edge to Hamonic if I had to choose 1 of the 2. Jets need a lot more size on the back end and Hamonic obviously provides that, is defensively responsible (as is DeMelo) but Hamonic plays with a lot more grit and it doesn't hurt that he would most likely take a bit of a discount to play in his home province.

I will admit, I have been flopping back and forth on which one I would rather target, but I think I have settled on Hamonic.


My concern with Hamonic is he's lost a step and he's 30 sure he's going to want a 4-5 year deal and being more of a name brand will get it most likely. Also three years older and has missed a lot of time. Demelo would be more of a show me contract and with us having a lot of d prospects pushing up all ready might suit us better. Do agree on the size issue though
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16 sept. 2020 à 11 h 24
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My concern with Hamonic is he's lost a step and he's 30 sure he's going to want a 4-5 year deal and being more of a name brand will get it most likely. Also three years older and has missed a lot of time. Demelo would be more of a show me contract and with us having a lot of d prospects pushing up all ready might suit us better. Do agree on the size issue though


Very valid points as well! There are definitely cases for both sides. If we are able to get a big left-handed Top 4 D to play with Pionk as example, re-signing DeMelo makes even more sense. I just know we need SOMEONE with some decent size lol.
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Very valid points as well! There are definitely cases for both sides. If we are able to get a big left-handed Top 4 D to play with Pionk as example, re-signing DeMelo makes even more sense. I just know we need SOMEONE with some decent size lol.


Hopefully Sanberg can be that guy button was on yesterday he thinks he has the attributes to be a top pairing defensman. He's two years older then Trouba when he stepped into the league. 6' 3" - 6' 4"
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16 sept. 2020 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: Rooney
Very valid points as well! There are definitely cases for both sides. If we are able to get a big left-handed Top 4 D to play with Pionk as example, re-signing DeMelo makes even more sense. I just know we need SOMEONE with some decent size lol.


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Hopefully Sanberg can be that guy button was on yesterday he thinks he has the attributes to be a top pairing defensman. He's two years older then Trouba when he stepped into the league. 6' 3" - 6' 4"


What about signing Jon Merrill for the 3rd pair LHD?
He's big(6'3"), shouldn't cost all that much and anytime I've watched him play he's pretty physical, I've liked Beaulieu for the Jets but maybe someone else would be better in that spot paired with Poolman.
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17 sept. 2020 à 8 h 45
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What about signing Jon Merrill for the 3rd pair LHD?
He's big(6'3"), shouldn't cost all that much and anytime I've watched him play he's pretty physical, I've liked Beaulieu for the Jets but maybe someone else would be better in that spot paired with Poolman.


Merrill is a guy I've looked at as well for a cheaper option! I would have absolutely no issue signing a guy like that for the bottom pairing over Beaulieu.
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What about signing Jon Merrill for the 3rd pair LHD?
He's big(6'3"), shouldn't cost all that much and anytime I've watched him play he's pretty physical, I've liked Beaulieu for the Jets but maybe someone else would be better in that spot paired with Poolman.


I don't mind Beaulieu on the third pairing Poolman and him played well together. Poolman was probably our best defensman in the play in as short as it was, He may still have top four upside last year was his first full season, be interesting to see how he does this season.
17 sept. 2020 à 10 h 42
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I don't mind Beaulieu on the third pairing Poolman and him played well together. Poolman was probably our best defensman in the play in as short as it was, He may still have top four upside last year was his first full season, be interesting to see how he does this season.


In the playin the Jets best dman was Kulikov.
 
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