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Why overpaid for Laine

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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 sept. 2020
Publié: 16 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  2. Tatar, Tomas (2 400 000 $ retained)
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1981 500 000 $68 322 976 $0 $3 137 500 $13 177 024 $
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16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 25
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.
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16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 26
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Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?
And CGY as no interest in Mete asthey are load up on the left side
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 27
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


Are you talking about the LHD in Anaheim... instead of RW in CGY?
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 31
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Is this a joke? Elias Lindholm is a stud Lindholm's best season 78 points Tomas Tatar's best season 61 points an aging winger and a bottom pairing LD doesn't get you a stud like Lindholm.
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16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 31
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Quoting: DomCholette
Are you talking about the LHD in Anaheim... instead of RW in CGY?


oh boy here come the kids

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Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?


ah what? Tatar playing the season of his career and now he is better then E.Lindholm? haha ok bud
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 35
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Quoting: DomCholette
Lindholm is not better than Tatar... why simply not keeping Tatar instead?
And CGY as no interest in Mete asthey are load up on the left side


Dude Lindholm is miles better then Tatar, That's not even debatable. I mean Tatar was my favorite Wing i'm a Tatar freak and even i know that Lindholm is better then him.
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 42
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude Lindholm is miles better then Tatar, That's not even debatable. I mean Tatar was my favorite Wing i'm a Tatar freak and even i know that Lindholm is better then him.


That bad... see him play many time as I like Cgy and never stand out... I founded that he play similare game than Tatar... amazing 20ft for the net... and Lindholm was playing with better offensive guy like Mony & Johnny Hockey
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 46
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Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 49
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Lmao Lindholm will cost you more than Laine would. Gtgo hes not available
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16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 50
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Quoting: bhavikp27
So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?


Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.

Quoting: DomCholette
That bad... see him play many time as I like Cgy and never stand out... I founded that he play similare game than Tatar... amazing 20ft for the net... and Lindholm was playing with better offensive guy like Mony & Johnny Hockey


There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 54
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.



There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan


IN is own ZONE OK- but didn't carry the puck in the middle zone, strong as puck protection depth on the offensive zone to leave more room for Gaudreau... but he is not a GOAT like you describe him.
Give him a 10-15% edge over Tatar + he is younger... = 2nd draft pick for the difference
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 56
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Thats the minimum. I don't even know if I would do that cause Lindholm is close to untouchable.



There is no way you watched him. Every time i see him he plays an amazing defensive game. He is great on the pp and pk. He does everything good. He always stands out to me ahead of Gaudreau and Monahan


Okay, you're seriously overvaluing him. Not because other CGY forwards suck that he becomes a franchise C. Even if CGY values him more than his real market value, they couldn't move him if that was their ask. Don't think they plan on moving him either, anyways. He is a great player, not an elite one; at least, not consistently enough.
16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 57
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Quoting: bhavikp27
So your trade would be a 1st+Suzuki+Danault+Petry for Lindholm?


its more like he's not available for anything less. Lindholm is a slightly inferior version of Marner or Stone. He does everything; powerplay, PK, score, make plays, face offs, backcheck, hit, block shots. Not to mention he is the only right handed winger on the team and he is on a cap hit of only 4.85M. Think about what it would cost for Carolina to move Slavin, or what a team would have to offer you for Marchand. That is how untouchable Lindholm is to Calgary only player on the team less available is Tkachuk.
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16 sept. 2020 à 8 h 58
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
its more like he's not available for anything less. Lindholm is a slightly inferior version of Marner or Stone. He does everything; powerplay, PK, score, make plays, face offs, backcheck, hit, block shots. Not to mention he is the only right handed winger on the team and he is on a cap hit of only 4.85M. Think about what it would cost for Carolina to move Slavin, or what a team would have to offer you for Marchand. That is how untouchable Lindholm is to Calgary only player on the team less available is Tkachuk.


Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 0
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Quoting: DomCholette
IN is own ZONE OK- but didn't carry the puck in the middle zone, strong as puck protection depth on the offensive zone to leave more room for Gaudreau... but he is not a GOAT like you describe him.
Give him a 10-15% edge over Tatar + he is younger... = 2nd draft pick for the difference


a 2nd? Tatar is maybe half the player Lindholm is. Like they arent even remotely comparable. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 1
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.



Tatar > Lindholm rn and I add mete for the age and he can play top 4 minutes...
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 2
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Well, say it that way that. Because that's definitely not his value on the market.


It's a good thing hes not on the market then
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 5
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
a 2nd? Tatar is maybe half the player Lindholm is. Like they arent even remotely comparable. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about



First do you watch Tatar play one time before for say that’s... I don’t think
16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 6
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Tatar > Lindholm rn and I add mete for the age and he can play top 4 minutes...


Only top 4 minutes Mete gets with the Flames in in Stockton. You've got screws loose if you think Tatar is better than Lindholm
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 12
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Is this a joke? Elias Lindholm is a stud Lindholm's best season 78 points Tomas Tatar's best season 61 points an aging winger and a bottom pairing LD doesn't get you a stud like Lindholm.


Ya ok a stud. Everyone becomes a stud playing with Gaudreau and Monahan. He wasn't such a stud when he was in CAR was he now.
16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 14
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Quoting: The_Architect
Ya ok a stud. Everyone becomes a stud playing with Gaudreau and Monahan. He wasn't such a stud when he was in CAR was he now.


Stud or not he's still better then Tomas Tatar and like i said that's not even debatable.
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16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 17
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Thats not gonna get you Lindholm lmao. Start with a first, Suzuki, and Danault, and Petry, That might not even get it done cause we have no interest in Lindholm.


Lmaoo, this package might not be enough for Lindholm but youre definitely trolling with the 1st, Zuke, Danault and Petry 😂 Lindholm’s stats are almost identical to Domi’s and Domi isn’t worth a package like that.
16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 24
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Only top 4 minutes Mete gets with the Flames in in Stockton. You've got screws loose if you think Tatar is better than Lindholm


These valuations of Mete are laughable, like he's some major extra in a deal, he isn't worth the difference between Tatar and Lindholm.
16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
These valuations of Mete are laughable, like he's some major extra in a deal, he isn't worth the difference between Tatar and Lindholm.


Hes a 3rd pair LD on a competitor. Flames already have Gio, Hanifin, Valimaki who are all better. Kylington is probably a coin toss
16 sept. 2020 à 9 h 57
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So you want us to downgrade, as well as take another LHD???? No thank you!
 
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