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Getting Pietro is the ONLY WAY we move Letang which is crazy

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Publié: 14 sept. 2020
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DISCLAIMER-I DON'T THINK LETANG WILL BE TRADED OR SHOULD BE!

but why not experiment...?

So Letang has a 18 team trade list or a 13 team no-trade list, however you want to look at it. he is from Quebec so I doubt he'd block MTL. MTL would have to move petry or something so accommodate Letang probably. but for the sake of this post, let's go with it...so mccann's rumoured to be on the block IMHO just because of his 20 something game goals drought...
Letang=Danault, Primeau, 3rd, 5th
McCann>Lehkonen
Larmi, Aberg, 7th<Fleury
so I think that deal is close to fair.

Murray is as good as gone. GMJR reportedly is asking a 1st +, which I think he will get close to...I think CGY is a legit trade partner.
Murray=1st, 5th
Zavgorodny, Bennett=3rd, angello, almeida

to move JJ I think Legare (3rd) Bjorkvist (2nd) is enough....

someone has to replace Letang so why not go for the big fish pietrangelo...

random thoughts:
-Danault would be a great 2 way #3C and could fill in in case of injury...
-some mix of Lehkonen, Danault, Hornqvist, and Simon would be a corsi juggernaut!
-Bennet can slot in the bottom-6 fine I think for whoever Will (not if) get hurt...
-With Jarry, Desmith, and Primeau that should be a good 1/2/3 goalie group
-the special teams looks good on paper (or in this case, screen)
-hopefully Rierden will PUT A RH SHOT ON THE LEFT HALF WALL ON THE POWER PLAY!!! (rust, Kapanen)
-Bennet and pietrangelo slot in nicely to the PP
-there are a TON of PK options for sure...the top-4 D can do it for sure + a mix of ZAR, Tanev, Bleuger, Kapanen, Danault, Bennet, Rust, Lehkonen, and even Sid and Jake if everyone else is hurt....oh please no!
-Finally Simon doesn't have to play.....but he will anyway somehow if healthy...just because....he always does.....(when rust or Kapanen finds himself on the 3rd line....)
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14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 5
#51
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Quoting: mhockey91
The only "core" players MTL has atm are Price, Weber, Suzuki, Kotk, and MAYBE Gally. Everyone else could be had for the right price


Maybe gally?!!!!! He's our top goal scorer and a great locker room guy! He scores 30+ goals even without the pp
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 7
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If that’s the case you make your best efforts to get him to sign for less because he should be able to see the chance the team has to contend if they have all 3


or he could go sign for a team like (ex. Winnipeg) that could offer him a 2C role, more money, and they would be the better team. Winnipeg isnt the best example because who wants to live in Winnipeg... but you get the point
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14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 7
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Maybe gally?!!!!! He's our top goal scorer and a great locker room guy! He scores 30+ goals even without the pp


hes also a pending UFA. he probably wont be traded, I agree, but i wouldn't say he is 100% not going anywhere
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 8
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I'm speechless
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 12
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Quoting: mhockey91
or he could go sign for a team like (ex. Winnipeg) that could offer him a 2C role, more money, and they would be the better team. Winnipeg isnt the best example because who wants to live in Winnipeg... but you get the point


Ya it’s not impossible he could leave. But he loves mtl and mtl loves him for good reason. I think they get it done. It’s not going to be easy to tell Danault Tatar Armia Petry Gallagher that they all have to be reasonably less expensive if they want to stay
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 14
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Also to add on a comment before. MTL would have a hard time flipping letang for a profit. He's paid 7.25 mil and a lot of teams have a cap issue because of the nhl freezing the cap.
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14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 15
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Ya it’s not impossible he could leave. But he loves mtl and mtl loves him for good reason. I think they get it done. It’s not going to be easy to tell Danault Tatar Armia Petry Gallagher that they all have to be reasonably less expensive if they want to stay


there is going to be at least 3 or 4 of those guys leaving imo
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 19
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Also to add on a comment before. MTL would have a hard time flipping letang for a profit. He's paid 7.25 mil and a lot of teams have a cap issue because of the nhl freezing the cap.


hes still an elite D, what are you saying? "flipping letang for a profit". acting like hes a cap dump lol. I needed a good laugh
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 21
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hes still an elite D, what are you saying? "flipping letang for a profit". acting like hes a cap dump lol. I needed a good laugh


You were the one who said we could flip him for a profit. It's not that he's not elite but a lot of good teams that would need him can't afford 7. 25 million. Get real
14 sept. 2020 à 20 h 21
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Quoting: mhockey91
there is going to be at least 3 or 4 of those guys leaving imo


Carey Price gonna pay Petry Gallagher Danault each 1 mil to sign a cap friendly deal Armia will be cheap enough and Tatar can walk after this year
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15 sept. 2020 à 0 h 14
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he still has had injury issues over the last few seasons. And if you want to call Letang an old declining D then what is Weber? Again, im not trying to say Weber is a "bad D" because obviously he's not, but if you want to use injuries as a way to bash Letang, the same argument can be applied to Weber.


He had that one injury only... that spanned from the end of a season to the start of another. Letang is many different injury on different occasions
15 sept. 2020 à 0 h 20
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when did i Ever post that? please find it. i would love to see it.


Pens fans in general
15 sept. 2020 à 0 h 23
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to start the season i agree he wont be traded, but like i said, by trade deadline, depending how Suzuki/Jk are playing, he could be moved.


Yeah... I mean, if KK and Suzuki dominate both offensively and defensively. There would be a possibility.
15 sept. 2020 à 0 h 43
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for the long term, sure, but as of right now, hes still a top D in this league and there is no denying that


Trying to keep a cool head, I'd stay clear of Letang period, and yes I'd prefer Petry over him. Obviously Letang is the better player, no debate there, but the difference between them isn't worth what the Habs would have to sacrifice to acquire Letang AND having to let go or move Petry as well. All this without mentioning the amount of mileage and durability questions concerning Letang, Habs already have enough of that with Weber. Petry is 32 yes, but he was a late bloomer and compared to Letang, doesn't come close to having the same amount of mileage. I'd have zero issue giving Petry an extension at $7mil aav. Once Letang's deal expires in 2022, I'd be extremely cautious at extending him at 35 years old...

So in a vaccum, right now, Letang over Petry (obviously)

Taking everything into context from the Habs perspective (cost of acquisition, positional need of the team, mid to long term outlook, etc.) Petry over Letang.

If you want a market value return for Letang, it won't be from MTL.
15 sept. 2020 à 0 h 46
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Trying to keep a cool head, I'd stay clear of Letang period, and yes I'd prefer Petry over him. Obviously Letang is the better player, no debate there, but the difference between them isn't worth what the Habs would have to sacrifice to acquire Letang AND having to let go or move Petry as well. All this without mentioning the amount of mileage and durability questions concerning Letang, Habs already have enough of that with Weber. Petry is 32 yes, but he was a late bloomer and compared to Letang, doesn't come close to having the same amount of mileage. I'd have zero issue giving Petry an extension at $7mil aav. Once Letang's deal expires in 2022, I'd be extremely cautious at extending him at 35 years old...

So in a vaccum, right now, Letang over Petry (obviously)

Taking everything into context from the Habs perspective (cost of acquisition, positional need of the team, mid to long term outlook, etc.) Petry over Letang.

If you want a market value return for Letang, it won't be from MTL.



fair enough, habs dont need/want letang, and pens do. He wont be traded regardless
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15 sept. 2020 à 10 h 58
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Petry on his next contract is probably going to get close to 7 million long term. Thats going to be a much worse contract then what letang is currently making. And Danault is going to walk from MTL anyways. this is a steal for MTL


Quoting: mhockey91
man i hate some habs fans on this site


Quoting: mhockey91
honestly, there is no use arguing with them anymore.


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he would play #1D in MTL lol. God habs fans on this site are ridiculous


Quoting: mhockey91
for the long term, sure, but as of right now, hes still a top D in this league and there is no denying that


LOL all fanbases have bad fans but some just top the list....
I agree that Letang won't be traded just first thought is MTL even if it doesn't make the most sense....
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