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Créé par: fouads1994
Date de création initiale: sep 13, 2020
Publié: 13 sep à 1 h 19
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Keeps Nicky Robertson, Sandin, Lilj down for one more year of seasoning and as extra depth in case of inevitable injuries.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis21 220 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya2800 000 $
Murray, Matt33 000 000 $
Cernak, Erik33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex77 800 000 $
Grant, Derek21 100 000 $
Simmonds, Wayne1800 000 $
Vesey, Jimmy11 000 000 $
Spezza, Jason1700 000 $
Nordström, Joakim1700 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. 2021 2e round pick (CGY)
  2. 2023 3e round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Andersen, Frederik
TOR
  1. 2021 2e round pick (SJS)
OTT
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
TOR
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
PIT
  1. 2021 2e round pick (CGY)
  2. 2021 2e round pick (SJS)
TOR
  1. 2021 3e round pick (VGK)
DET
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
TOR
  1. Cernak, Erik [Droits de RFA]
TBL
  1. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
actually pittsburghs pick
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
VGK
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
CGY
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 259 366 $0 $0 $240 634 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Vesey, Jimmy
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Grant, Derek
1 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Simmonds, Wayne
800 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Nordström, Joakim
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Pietrangelo, Alex
7 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Murray, Matt
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Cernak, Erik
3 000 000 $
DD
RFA
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
1 220 000 $
DG
RFA
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Rosén, Calle
750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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13 sep à 1 h 25
#1
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 741
Mentions "j'aime": 243
Pietrangelo would stay in St. Louis for $7.8M
13 sep à 1 h 35
#2
Cooper
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 106
Mentions "j'aime": 18
Quoting: flyersarephilly
Pietrangelo would stay in St. Louis for $7.8M


except they only offered him 7 which is insulting
13 sep à 1 h 48
#3
Rejoint: oct 2019
Messages: 425
Mentions "j'aime": 184
Quoting: flyersarephilly
Pietrangelo would stay in St. Louis for $7.8M


You're right he would stay for 7.8M. But STL hasnt offered that much yet
13 sep à 2 h 15
#4
Buffbry
Rejoint: aoû 2017
Messages: 3,314
Mentions "j'aime": 1,481
Wings say no, the trade is kerfoot and Toronto 2nd in 2020 for Adam erne or Brendan perlini. If you want to dump a bad contract to Detroit it will cost you, if you trade him to a contender you may get your 3rd you want
13 sep à 2 h 32
#5
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 2,338
Mentions "j'aime": 1,102
Quoting: buffbry
Wings say no, the trade is kerfoot and Toronto 2nd in 2020 for Adam erne or Brendan perlini. If you want to dump a bad contract to Detroit it will cost you, if you trade him to a contender you may get your 3rd you want

Okay this is a bit much, as a Sens fan I know I don’t like seeing people dump bad players on bad contracts to us (Russell is a fave for Oilers fans, they somehow think he still has value) but objectively, Kerfoot is actually an okay 3C on a decent contract, he’s not a dump. He’s worth a 3rd, just not to Detroit, but that doesn’t mean you counter asking for a 2nd lol
BCAPP, AnyoneButTheBruins, Jamiepo and 2 others a aimé ceci.
13 sep à 2 h 43
#6
Buffbry
Rejoint: aoû 2017
Messages: 3,314
Mentions "j'aime": 1,481
Quoting: Alfie11
Okay this is a bit much, as a Sens fan I know I don’t like seeing people dump bad players on bad contracts to us (Russell is a fave for Oilers fans, they somehow think he still has value) but objectively, Kerfoot is actually an okay 3C on a decent contract, he’s not a dump. He’s worth a 3rd, just not to Detroit, but that doesn’t mean you counter asking for a 2nd lol


My point was that kerfoot doesn't go to the red wings for a pick because he's useless for us. 9 goals and 19 assists means if they want to get rid of his cap hit and they are dead set on him going to the wings, then the leafs pay for us to take him. If say they traded him to Edmonton or cbj, they would get the 3rd they are looking for. Wings aren't taking cap hits from teams that are desperate to get out of contracts just to do it and we will be getting assets back. This is why I countered the way I did.
13 sep à 2 h 46
#7
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 2,338
Mentions "j'aime": 1,102
Quoting: buffbry
My point was that kerfoot doesn't go to the red wings for a pick because he's useless for us. 9 goals and 19 assists means if they want to get rid of his cap hit and they are dead set on him going to the wings, then the leafs pay for us to take him. If say they traded him to Edmonton or cbj, they would get the 3rd they are looking for. Wings aren't taking cap hits from teams that are desperate to get out of contracts just to do it and we will be getting assets back. This is why I countered the way I did.

Yeah I get that, but it’s better to just say find another trade partner if the trade in a vacuum (no teams involved) is fair value
13 sep à 2 h 47
#8
Buffbry
Rejoint: aoû 2017
Messages: 3,314
Mentions "j'aime": 1,481
Quoting: Alfie11
Yeah I get that, but it’s better to just say find another trade partner if the trade in a vacuum (no teams involved) is fair value


I've already denied this trade About 75 times this week and 250 last week, sick of seeing it, leaf fans overrate their players and prospects more then anyone and can't get out of the first round. My take is, if they want to keep putting this Garbage out there, now it's going to cost them a 2nd for us to take him
13 sep à 3 h 30
#9
get off my lawn...
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 15,691
Mentions "j'aime": 7,839
Quoting: buffbry
I've already denied this trade About 75 times this week and 250 last week, sick of seeing it, leaf fans overrate their players and prospects more then anyone and can't get out of the first round. My take is, if they want to keep putting this Garbage out there, now it's going to cost them a 2nd for us to take him


You can deny it all you want, I hate to break it to you but you’re not actually Steve Yzerman. There is no rule here stating whatever you say goes...
Sign_em_up000000 a aimé ceci.
13 sep à 3 h 32
#10
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 381
Mentions "j'aime": 82
Flames don't want Andersen. I really wish Leafs fans would stop trying to pawn him off on us.
13 sep à 5 h 36
#11
Rejoint: jui 2017
Messages: 2,558
Mentions "j'aime": 619
If that’s the contract Murray will sign, the pens just keep him then
13 sep à 7 h 52
#12
Rejoint: déc 2019
Messages: 1,255
Mentions "j'aime": 247
Quoting: buffbry
I've already denied this trade About 75 times this week and 250 last week, sick of seeing it, leaf fans overrate their players and prospects more then anyone and can't get out of the first round. My take is, if they want to keep putting this Garbage out there, now it's going to cost them a 2nd for us to take him


You know, fans from Detroit over value their players and prospects too eh. They also haven't made the playoffs in a little while now. Maybe if 3c was upgraded you would stand a chance but you are red wings fan after all
13 sep à 7 h 52
#13
Rejoint: déc 2019
Messages: 1,255
Mentions "j'aime": 247
Quoting: buffbry
I've already denied this trade About 75 times this week and 250 last week, sick of seeing it, leaf fans overrate their players and prospects more then anyone and can't get out of the first round. My take is, if they want to keep putting this Garbage out there, now it's going to cost them a 2nd for us to take him


You know, fans from Detroit over value their players and prospects too eh. They also have made the playoffs in a little while now. Maybe if 3c was upgraded you would stand a chance but you are red wings fan after all
13 sep à 8 h 29
#14
Go Wings Go
Rejoint: jun 2016
Messages: 26,005
Mentions "j'aime": 5,265
laugh laugh This guy doesn't know how contracts work, Try more like 5 x 5 for Matt Murray and 7 x 9 for Alex Pietrangelo he's not signing in high taxed Canada for garbage. Murray made $3.75m this past season you can't pay him less. Learn how contracts work.
13 sep à 11 h 51
#15
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 3,591
Mentions "j'aime": 2,256
Quoting: Jamiepo
You can deny it all you want, I hate to break it to you but you’re not actually Steve Yzerman. There is no rule here stating whatever you say goes...


Exactly, if a leafs fan would have proposed the Pitt trade before it happened they would have got ripped to shreds and told they were delusional yet here we are. I realize that alot of people overvalue players on here but I've seen it from every fan base. I laugh when people on here say that a certain trade wont happen as if they're actually in charge which is why I say I can't see Dubas moving a certain player or making a certain trade but I'm not privy to any inside information or anything other than what everyone else knows.
13 sep à 12 h 02
#16
get off my lawn...
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 15,691
Mentions "j'aime": 7,839
Quoting: Sign_em_up000000
Exactly, if a leafs fan would have proposed the Pitt trade before it happened they would have got ripped to shreds and told they were delusional yet here we are. I realize that alot of people overvalue players on here but I've seen it from every fan base. I laugh when people on here say that a certain trade wont happen as if they're actually in charge which is why I say I can't see Dubas moving a certain player or making a certain trade but I'm not privy to any inside information or anything other than what everyone else knows.


I might not say it in every comment but I do say it quite a bit.... these are only my opinions.
Sign_em_up000000 a aimé ceci.
13 sep à 12 h 29
#17
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 3,591
Mentions "j'aime": 2,256
Quoting: Jamiepo
I might not say it in every comment but I do say it quite a bit.... these are only my opinions.


Same here
 
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