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One Way to Move Neal

Créé par: RickFromRedDeer
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 13 sept. 2020
Publié: 13 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3825 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
22 100 000 $
22 100 000 $
1800 000 $
3925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
Transactions
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EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (1 000 000 $ retained)
2.
EDM
  1. Borgström, Henrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
FLA
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 150 000 $75 567 699 $341 534 $230 000 $5 582 301 $

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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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C, AG
UFA - 5
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA
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700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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UFA - 2

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13 sept. 2020 à 0 h 56
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Why stop there? Just trade Neal for Mackinnon while you're at it
13 sept. 2020 à 0 h 56
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Can't see Vegas having any interest in this

we have enough Winger depth as is

sure there will be plenty of suitors for Fleury with retained salary, and Vegas could reasonably retain 50%

He's not a cap dump
13 sept. 2020 à 1 h 10
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If Vegas took Neal back they wouldn’t retain on fleury
13 sept. 2020 à 1 h 11
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Quoting: Shifttee
Can't see Vegas having any interest in this

we have enough Winger depth as is

sure there will be plenty of suitors for Fleury with retained salary, and Vegas could reasonably retain 50%

He's not a cap dump


They really can’t hold onto 50% for the next two years. That’s 3.5 in dead cap that they’ll need for contracts and a backup goalie. Vegas would explore moving jt all or about 1M RET
13 sept. 2020 à 1 h 20
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They really can’t hold onto 50% for the next two years. That’s 3.5 in dead cap that they’ll need for contracts and a backup goalie. Vegas would explore moving jt all or about 1M RET


They can definitely afford to retain 50% (not saying its ideal, but they can)

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1913555

it's gonna cost them Sastny, but he is also the easiest piece to replace with Glass.

they don't have any big contracts coming up in the next 2 years

Whitecloud, Roy, Glass and Hague are all locked up cheap for 2 yrs as well as pretty much all of their core.
13 sept. 2020 à 2 h 18
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Quoting: hairyberry
Why stop there? Just trade Neal for Mackinnon while you're at it


Well that is just preposterous. MacKinnon would likely not be satisfied with a 3C role with the Oil, although I suppose this would check the box for our need for a centre that can drive a line at even strength. 
I am not that clever, this was Bob Stauffer’s (Edmonton color guy, big-time-homer) idea. He was on the radio suggesting it. I am not sure why he thinks Vegas retains here, but if the deal was straight up; and Edmonton thinks Fleury has anything left in the tank, this could work. I think it might me a bit harder to move $ 7 million goalie that appears to be declining this year than you might think.
13 sept. 2020 à 3 h 18
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Quoting: MMXD
They really can’t hold onto 50% for the next two years. That’s 3.5 in dead cap that they’ll need for contracts and a backup goalie. Vegas would explore moving jt all or about 1M RET


They won't need to retain half but they could. They have no one big to sign apart from Lehner and that money would be there. They might need a defenseman but unless they go after Pietrangelo there's no one they need to be spending the big money on. They have some forwards they will probably look at trading as well for more space.

Glass, Dugan, Elvenes all need to get their shots next two seasons. Hague and Coghlan will get their chances on defense. Stastny is off the books next season and Tatar retention. Krebs may be ready at that point.

Neal is a non-starter they don't take that contract at all.
13 sept. 2020 à 3 h 27
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Quoting: RickFromRedDeer
Well that is just preposterous. MacKinnon would likely not be satisfied with a 3C role with the Oil, although I suppose this would check the box for our need for a centre that can drive a line at even strength. 
I am not that clever, this was Bob Stauffer’s (Edmonton color guy, big-time-homer) idea. He was on the radio suggesting it. I am not sure why he thinks Vegas retains here, but if the deal was straight up; and Edmonton thinks Fleury has anything left in the tank, this could work. I think it might me a bit harder to move $ 7 million goalie that appears to be declining this year than you might think.


They would just retain 30% and be done with it. Fleury at 4.9 is an asset to other teams. He's had a solid playoffs every time he's been called on and still looks good, Vegas management just apparently chose the younger guy.

No way they take an extra year of Neal, it messes up their entire structure for when Glass, Hague, Dugan, Elvenes, Roy and Whitecloud would be due raises. Not all will get them but a few will.

Vegas refused to sign Neal two years ago for more than 4x4, they especially don't do an enormous favor to a division foe and give them a useful player for a useless one signed a year longer.
13 sept. 2020 à 6 h 44
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You actually think Vegas will take back the Neal contract, and retain on MAF and send him to Edmonton? That's silly.
13 sept. 2020 à 6 h 47
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Quoting: MMXD
They really can’t hold onto 50% for the next two years. That’s 3.5 in dead cap that they’ll need for contracts and a backup goalie. Vegas would explore moving jt all or about 1M RET


Vegas won't dole out 2-3m for bottom defenders, backups and bottom 6 guys. They'll also go with 22 or possibly even 21 players for the season opening roster.
 
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