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Créé par: ErikJohannsen
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 11 sept. 2020
Publié: 11 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
22 000 000 $
2850 000 $
31 500 000 $
54 363 094 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
46 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
12 000 000 $
46 000 000 $
1750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Overages, Bonus
1850 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cernak, Erik4 363 094 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Transactions
1.
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
2020 2nd round pick (STL)
MTL
  1. Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Beagle, Jay (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Buffalo was bottom three in the league last season in faceoffs and penalty kill
4.
VAN
    2020 4th round pick
    NYR
    1. Sutter, Brandon (2 000 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    The Rangers were also one of the worst faceoff teams and didn't have a good penalty kill.
    5.
    VAN
    1. Joseph, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]
    6.
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Frais appliqués
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2021
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de STL
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    2022
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de BUF
    2023
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $79 803 305 $1 700 000 $4 550 000 $1 696 695 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    4 363 094 $4 363 094 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    700 000 $700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Overages, Bonus
    850 000 $850 000 $
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    11 sept. 2020 à 19 h 52
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    NJD makes no sense....VAN adds there
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 3
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    no to all your trades and no more buy-outs
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    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 6
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    I would understand trading for Schneider if you didn't sign Markstrom, played him as the backup (not the best backup though), then bought him out/seek out a trade at the end of next season. But that's a tough scenario still
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 6
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    NJD makes no sense....VAN adds there


    It actually makes a lot of sense when you look at the contracts. Devils save 7M in salary and get a player they can use while staying above the floor.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 7
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    Quoting: cshores
    no to all your trades and no more buy-outs


    Why?
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 9
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    Quoting: telmax
    I would understand trading for Schneider if you didn't sign Markstrom, played him as the backup (not the best backup though), then bought him out/seek out a trade at the end of next season. But that's a tough scenario still


    I'm 100% not comfortable if it's Demko's first season as the starter and Schnieder is my backup. If they don't sign Markstrom and Demko gets the job then I would expect a 1B goalie to do a 60/40 split with Demko.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 13
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    It actually makes a lot of sense when you look at the contracts. Devils save 7M in salary and get a player they can use while staying above the floor.


    If that is the reason, why wouldn't VAN save $7m and keep they player they can use?

    VAN adds
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 14
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    I'm 100% not comfortable if it's Demko's first season as the starter and Schnieder is my backup. If they don't sign Markstrom and Demko gets the job then I would expect a 1B goalie to do a 60/40 split with Demko.


    That's why I said that's the only scenario that the Canucks should trade for Schneider. They can't afford to pay for both Markstrom and Schneider's buy out. That pretty much makes Marky's contract $8M for the next four years. Plus we can't keep buying out players, that's just death by 1000 cuts, over the death by 1000 cuts the team is already facing with all the dead money
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 16
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    I'm 100% not comfortable if it's Demko's first season as the starter and Schnieder is my backup. If they don't sign Markstrom and Demko gets the job then I would expect a 1B goalie to do a 60/40 split with Demko.


    Like I get your logic, but if the Canucks are going to make a move for an overpriced goalie, they should do it with the mind of getting a backup for Demko
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 18
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    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 21
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    Quoting: telmax
    Like I get your logic, but if the Canucks are going to make a move for an overpriced goalie, they should do it with the mind of getting a backup for Demko


    The trade with New Jersey isn't really about getting Schnieder, it's about reducing Loui Eriksson's cap hit for the Canucks. The Canucks solely do this trade to buyout Schneider and save 4M in cap for the next two seasons.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 23
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    Quoting: telmax
    That's why I said that's the only scenario that the Canucks should trade for Schneider. They can't afford to pay for both Markstrom and Schneider's buy out. That pretty much makes Marky's contract $8M for the next four years. Plus we can't keep buying out players, that's just death by 1000 cuts, over the death by 1000 cuts the team is already facing with all the dead money


    Because the Canucks want to improve their roster right now and would be willing to eat money to do so. Its either the Canucks eat salary and open cap space or they add picks and open cap space but Benning has already stated he's not in the market to do that. The Devils get a player to reach the floor while paying him cheaply, a player that they can play while in a transitioning period for the organization, and save 7M over two years n a period of economic downturn.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 23
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    If the Sabres want a F/O specialist they can just bring back Sobotka for $700,000
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 28
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    If the Sabres want a F/O specialist they can just bring back Sobotka for $700,000


    Maybe that's a possibility but it's not a guarantee that he would want to come back to a team like the Sabres who just overhauled their entire front office and are an organization with an uncertain future. Player retention is a problem that bottom-feeder teams have but if a player under contract is traded to them they don't have a choice.
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    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 33
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    The trade with New Jersey isn't really about getting Schnieder, it's about reducing Loui Eriksson's cap hit for the Canucks. The Canucks solely do this trade to buyout Schneider and save 4M in cap for the next two seasons.


    Yeah $4M is nice for the two years, but then it's $2M after. Like yeah Benning wouldn't care because he won't be here by then, but still really tough when that'll be when Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Horvat, Hughes, et. al, are being paid
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 39
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    Maybe that's a possibility but it's not a guarantee that he would want to come back to a team like the Sabres who just overhauled their entire front office and are an organization with an uncertain future. Player retention is a problem that bottom-feeder teams have but if a player under contract is traded to them they don't have a choice.


    Doesn’t Beagle have a NTC? He wouldn’t waive for Buffalo.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 41
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Doesn’t Beagle have a NTC? He wouldn’t waive for Buffalo.


    he has a 5 team no-trade list so maybe Buffalo is on there, maybe they're not.
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 42
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    We want Boeser, an elite top line winger. Not Virtanen, a third-fourth line winger
    11 sept. 2020 à 20 h 43
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    he has a 5 team no-trade list so maybe Buffalo is on there, maybe they're not.


    Hopefully buffalo is on it.
    11 sept. 2020 à 21 h 2
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Hopefully buffalo is on it.


    Haha ok buddy. Buffalo was just a dumpster fire in terms of PK and Faceoffs which are the two things that Beagle provides so it could literally be any other team that needs those qualities, at a relatively cheap cost, for a 7th round pick.
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    11 sept. 2020 à 21 h 5
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    Quoting: HabsFan9
    We want Boeser, an elite top line winger. Not Virtanen, a third-fourth line winger


    I feel like the Habs would have interest in Virtanen but it could be any other team that wants him, which I think there will be a few. The value is based on what Burakovsky cost last offseason as I feel they are similar situations. Boeser is not getting traded unless you want to give Romanov and Domi you muppet.
    11 sept. 2020 à 21 h 15
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    I feel like the Habs would have interest in Virtanen but it could be any other team that wants him, which I think there will be a few. The value is based on what Burakovsky cost last offseason as I feel they are similar situations. Boeser is not getting traded unless you want to give Romanov and Domi you muppet.


    I know that Boeser isn’t getting traded, just showing you how far off it is(I prefer the hairy guy with the drums for muppets). I wuldn’t do that Burakovsky trade if I were the Avs, there must have been a cheaper option
    11 sept. 2020 à 21 h 15
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    Haha ok buddy. Buffalo was just a dumpster fire in terms of PK and Faceoffs which are the two things that Beagle provides so it could literally be any other team that needs those qualities, at a relatively cheap cost, for a 7th round pick.


    It’s Krueger’s system. They had good players on the PK Girgenson, Larson,Lazar,Vesey. I do agree they need to improve on the Face-off circle.
    12 sept. 2020 à 18 h 28
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    Quoting: ErikJohannsen
    Haha ok buddy. Buffalo was just a dumpster fire in terms of PK and Faceoffs which are the two things that Beagle provides so it could literally be any other team that needs those qualities, at a relatively cheap cost, for a 7th round pick.

    I agree. I have been watching the Beagle trades for some time.
    This is by far the most favorable for the Sabres.
    If they could have killed one more penalty in any number of games, they would have been in the preliminaries.
    Quoting: Sabres923
    It’s Krueger’s system. They had good players on the PK Girgenson, Larson,Lazar,Vesey. I do agree they need to improve on the Face-off circle.


    Or lack of a system.
    You probably have read my rant about Krueger many times as I am disgusted with him.
    He was Botterill's biggest mistake.
    Eight players all had career worse seasons Miller, Montour, Vesey, Sheary, Rodrigues, Hutton, Okposo and of course Skinner.
    Coaches are suppose to make the players better not bring out the worse in them.
    Imagine adding Miller, Jokiharju, Johansson, Vesey and Montour for an entire season and having the team perform worse than the previous year.
    You make a great point about Sobotka winning face offs, but why have him on the same line as Skinner?
    Put Sobotka with Larsson and Girgensons instead of Okposo.

    BTW
    Have you watched the playoffs?
    Have you noticed the difference with their PK and the Sabres?
    We need a new PK and PP coach.
     
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