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Realistic

Créé par: mastersp4
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 sept. 2020
Publié: 9 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trade Petry at deadline
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
34 500 000 $
22 250 000 $
33 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
79 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
COL
  1. Danault, Phillip
Détails additionnels:
Extended
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DET)
DET
  1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
3.
MTL
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
NJD
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Compensation
5.
MTL
PIT
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de DET
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Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
Logo de BOS
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Logo de OTT
2021
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Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
Logo de VGK
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Logo de OTT
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $74 939 643 $0 $3 987 500 $6 560 357 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 32
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I think the Rangers accept that but im not sure it makes them better in the end. Domi is gonna get a bad contract just like strome, and maybe he is better than him but maybe he isnt. At least he is younger...
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 34
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realistic would be danault for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. like pageau. 1st, kaut, jost is too much unless you're sending another good piece too.
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 35
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
realistic would be danault for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. like pageau. 1st, kaut, jost is too much unless you're sending another good piece too.


And if AVS keep Kaut ?
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 37
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Quoting: mastersp4
And if AVS keep Kaut ?


i think that would be comparable to the pageau deal. avs add a conditional 3rd if they win the cup.
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 37
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if thomas tatar is a right winger the pens accept if not pens decline
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: acj
if thomas tatar is a right winger the pens accept if not pens decline


Tatar plays both sides of the ice but seeing as it is a contract year he may want to play his strong side. Which is left.
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 44
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That Avs trade is utterly absurd.
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 47
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Quoting: Campabee
Tatar plays both sides of the ice but seeing as it is a contract year he may want to play his strong side. Which is left.


if he plays left this year pens decline unless they can find a way to move zucker to right
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 48
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The Detroit trade isn’t too bad but just doesn’t make too much sense for us. We have guys like Mete so I’d rather keep the pick and play guys like Cholowski.
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 52
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Rangers decline without a MTL add. DeAngelo is a significantly more valuable player
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 58
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Rangers can't add salary... actually they need to shred some (not much but can't add)
I would send Danault + Armia + 2nd to NYR instead for Tony & Buch
9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 59
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Jost is a 4th liner
Habs reject offer
9 sept. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Can you sign Deangelo at that price for longer term ??? I Like your idea of replacing Petry with a similar type of player (DeAngelo) but younger. However, for this to be a real gain, it would have to be someone we can lock for 6-7 years, at this lower cap hit $$$. A Samuel Girard type of contract. I don't see that much advantage of having Deangelo over Petry for the next 3 years, and then we risk loosing him because he'll want too much $$$.
9 sept. 2020 à 10 h 56
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Jost is of no use the Habs, the 1st is late and Kaut isnt good enough to make up for all that, easy no from the Habs
9 sept. 2020 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: BStinson
The Detroit trade isn’t too bad but just doesn’t make too much sense for us. We have guys like Mete so I’d rather keep the pick and play guys like Cholowski.


No you don't. Seriously DET fans.

"5. Victor Mete, D, Montreal-NHL
June 7, 1998 | 5-foot-9 | 183 pounds

Tier: Very good NHL player
Skating: 65
Puck Skills: 55
Physical Game: 30
Hockey Sense: 60

Mete has played three full NHL seasons where he’s been a modest-scoring defenseman who has played third-pair minutes. His skating is clearly the best aspect of his game. His edgework, and especially his speed, are elite and allow him to push the pace when leading attacks up the ice. There isn’t a lot about his game that dazzles outside his skating. He’s a smart passer who makes good outlets and has some blue line creativity, but I don’t think his puck game wows and as a 5-foot-9 defender it’s hard to see him as a “tough matchups” type. I think there’s enough to his skill set that he could progress into a league-average defenseman but it would be nice to see his game take a big step soon."

"7. Dennis Cholowski, D, Grand Rapids-AHL
Feb. 15, 1998 | six-foot | 194 pounds

Tier: Legit NHL player
Skating: 60
Puck Skills: 55
Physical Game: 40
Hockey Sense: 60

After playing up in the NHL for most of 2018-19, Cholowski didn’t take that next step and bounced between the AHL and NHL last season. He has NHL qualities in his skating and vision. He can get pucks up the ice through his easy stride and ability to make a great first pass. Cholowski can make plays from the offensive blue line and has power-play skill. Cholowski though has struggled defensively at the higher levels. He was a power play only guy without penalty kill duties last season in the AHL and NHL. He has the mobility to stay with players, but he isn’t necessarily a hard to play against defender and has struggled to be consistent enough in that regard to earn the trust of his coaches."

Mete would be your 3rd best defenseman and he is Left handed. Him and Seider would be an excellent combo.

Also prospects ranked from 14th to 24th this year project as "Very Good". Mete for a 3rd is a joke. You declining Mete for a 3rd is bigger joke.
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: HabStraction
Can you sign Deangelo at that price for longer term ??? I Like your idea of replacing Petry with a similar type of player (DeAngelo) but younger. However, for this to be a real gain, it would have to be someone we can lock for 6-7 years, at this lower cap hit $$$. A Samuel Girard type of contract. I don't see that much advantage of having Deangelo over Petry for the next 3 years, and then we risk loosing him because he'll want too much $$$.


it's a good idea to secure the long term now. I'm guessing a 6x6M for tony its a good price.
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: FreeTacosAreBestTacos
Rangers decline without a MTL add. DeAngelo is a significantly more valuable player


Deangelo dont have a significant value more than domi
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 6
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I am always sceptical when I see "Realistic" in the title and 5 trades lined up. Add to that Taylor Hall and I really start to wonder.

The trades you have are all reasonably balanced, likely pleasing no one which ultimately means you probably gave as much as you got. I don't understand a few of them, though.

1) Top of that list is DeAngelo for Domi. I think they're both excellent players, but why would the Habs trade for an RHD when they already have Weber and Petry -- unless you're planning to move one of them? So that's the #1 headscratcher.
2) If you're building a team for "now", then why wouldn't you keep Danault. McCann is OK, but he's not nearly the proven asset that Danault is. Jost is an OK all-purpose player, but could likely be had for less than what you're paying. Kaut doesn't factor into your "near" plans and while we all love draft picks, giving up Danault for a pick is a major risk.
3) You won't have to pay to give away Byron. There are plenty of teams who would give you a 3rd or 4th for him straight up. When he's healthy, he's definitely an asset and when he's injured, he doesn't cost your team anything.
4) Unless his contract terms are ludicrous, there's no reason to rush Mete out of town. Even if Romanov explodes onto the scene, the Habs don't yet have the depth at LD to feel they have to move him for a mere 3rd rounder. If someone offered you a great deal, then take it. But a 3rd rounder is a painful giveaway for a 22-year-old who had already played 171 games in the NHL.
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
I am always sceptical when I see "Realistic" in the title and 5 trades lined up. Add to that Taylor Hall and I really start to wonder.

The trades you have are all reasonably balanced, likely pleasing no one which ultimately means you probably gave as much as you got. I don't understand a few of them, though.

1) Top of that list is DeAngelo for Domi. I think they're both excellent players, but why would the Habs trade for an RHD when they already have Weber and Petry -- unless you're planning to move one of them? So that's the #1 headscratcher.
2) If you're building a team for "now", then why wouldn't you keep Danault. McCann is OK, but he's not nearly the proven asset that Danault is. Jost is an OK all-purpose player, but could likely be had for less than what you're paying. Kaut doesn't factor into your "near" plans and while we all love draft picks, giving up Danault for a pick is a major risk.
3) You won't have to pay to give away Byron. There are plenty of teams who would give you a 3rd or 4th for him straight up. When he's healthy, he's definitely an asset and when he's injured, he doesn't cost your team anything.
4) Unless his contract terms are ludicrous, there's no reason to rush Mete out of town. Even if Romanov explodes onto the scene, the Habs don't yet have the depth at LD to feel they have to move him for a mere 3rd rounder. If someone offered you a great deal, then take it. But a 3rd rounder is a painful giveaway for a 22-year-old who had already played 171 games in the NHL.


1) in fact in the description of this tread. I want to trade Petry at deadline. So yes i'm going younger at RD with :
Chariot Weber
Romanov - Deangelo
Kulak - Juulsen/Fleury

2) I guess i mean you're right. I just don't want to give 6M to a 3rd center if Kk and Suzuki takes 1 and 2.

3) I guess yes when Byron hes healthy but it's been 2 years since he had a good season and he have a big contract for a guy who play on the 3rd or 4th line

4) I don't think Mete have a big value. Except his skating he brings nothing
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9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: acj
if thomas tatar is a right winger the pens accept if not pens decline


Pens decline regardless because he is a left handed shot. They already have enough of those. A top 6 right handed shot (preferably RW too) that has a shot good enough to play the left wall on the PP would be much more ideal
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: acj
if he plays left this year pens decline unless they can find a way to move zucker to right


Tatar has 1 year left and then is a UFA. He is not a big enough fish to give up that much for.

However, the funniest thing in this AGM is Jost on the second line.
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9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Tatar has 1 year left and then is a UFA. He is not a big enough fish to give up that much for.

However, the funniest thing in this AGM is Jost on the second line.


Honestly it's because i love that player. he had so much potential with Dakota. Maybe a new team may help this guy
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Deangelo isn't going to anither team that is gonna make him play on the 3rd pair
9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: Shesterkin_next_GOAT
Deangelo isn't going to anither team that is gonna make him play on the 3rd pair


Just check the post.... We will trade Petry
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9 sept. 2020 à 11 h 47
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Quoting: BorisBagels211
Jost is a cap dump
Habs reject offer


Lol, Jost doesn't even have a contract how could he be a capdump? Absurd take.
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