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Miller Pekar and Pilut for Virtanen Benn Beagle Lind

Créé par: gretzkyghosts
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 8 sept. 2020
Publié: 8 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Beagle, Jay
  2. Benn, Jordie
  3. Lind, Kole
  4. Virtanen, Jake
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
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BUF
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      8 sept. 2020 à 16 h 26
      #1
      Am Yisrael Chai
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      How about something like this:
      Vancouver Canucks
      - Colin Miller
      - Lawrence Pilut
      Buffalo Sabres
      - Loui Eriksson
      - Adam Gaudette
      - Jake Virtanen
      8 sept. 2020 à 16 h 41
      #2
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      I wouldn't trade Pekar alone for that garbage trade...why the hell would we want Beagle and Benn?
      8 sept. 2020 à 17 h 16
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      No, Buffalo is not taking on 3 overpaid depth pieces for the sake of getting the mystery bag that is Virtanen.

      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      How about something like this:
      Vancouver Canucks
      - Colin Miller
      - Lawrence Pilut
      Buffalo Sabres
      - Loui Eriksson
      - Adam Gaudette
      - Jake Virtanen


      This is honestly almost worse than the OP.
      Buffalo is not taking on Eriksson’s contract because he is quite literally worthless and a malcontent. I wouldn’t take him barring Quinn freaking Hughes coming with him to give you an idea.
      8 sept. 2020 à 17 h 25
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      Quoting: thewookie1
      No, Buffalo is not taking on 3 overpaid depth pieces for the sake of getting the mystery bag that is Virtanen.



      This is honestly almost worse than the OP.
      Buffalo is not taking on Eriksson’s contract because he is quite literally worthless and a malcontent. I wouldn’t take him barring Quinn freaking Hughes coming with him to give you an idea.


      We can absorb his deal and we are getting back to great young pieces that round out our offense
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      8 sept. 2020 à 18 h 22
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      No Thx
      Just do Montour for Virtanen
      8 sept. 2020 à 22 h 23
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      We can absorb his deal and we are getting back to great young pieces that round out our offense


      We really can’t; we need that money for a 2C and Dahlin next year
      9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 24
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      First of all thank you for your comments.
      Below you will see the reasons I like this trade. IMO it fills four holes, RW, LHD, PK Center, prospect pool.
      I was surprised I did not hear from any Vancouver AGM's.

      Quoting: Shnooks
      I wouldn't trade Pekar alone for that garbage trade...why the hell would we want Beagle and Benn?

      Virtanen, Lind, 3rd, 4th are not garbage while Beagle and Benn fill holes in the Buffalo line up as well.
      I love Girgensons and Larsson but they could not KP, Beagle could, he would help the team.
      Benn while being the bottom pairing defenseman for Vancouver still played over 16/gm, and his contract runs out next year.
      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      We can absorb his deal and we are getting back to great young pieces that round out our offense

      I agree that this would be a better trade - Loui Eriksson, Adam Gaudette and Jake Virtanen for Miller and Pilut.
      IMO you are correct that we could absorb his contract through a buyout and bridge deals with either Dahlin or Johikarju.
      The first year we take almost his entire salary $5,666,667, the second it drops to $3,666,667 then two more years of $666,667.
      It is unfortunate that his salary is structured in a manner that only $1,333,333 is saved over the four years.
      I would much rather have Gaudette over Lind, but I do not think Vancouver would want to give him.
      Quoting: Lenny54
      No Thx
      Just do Montour for Virtanen

      First, IMO Montour is more valuable than Miller and Virtanen.
      Second:
      Beagle, is a not a pure cap dump, he is Vancouver top PK forward, he would certainly help Buffalo there, remember one PK over any of many games and the Sabres are in the preliminaries.
      Benn certainly had a very rough year, but he would be better than our current third LHD and if he could discover his 2018-'19 MOJO, he would be a good fit.
      Lind a prospect about equal to Mittelstadt, IMO a good pick up.
      Virtanen obviously the key to the trade, he would be a good top 6 RW for Buffalo. IMO Miller for Virtanen is a fair trade.
      So Buffalo has the cap space to take on all the players, they all fill holes that Buffalo has, and Buffalo gets a prospect and 2 more picks.
      Quoting: thewookie1
      We really can’t; we need that money for a 2C and Dahlin next year

      See my comment to Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      9 sept. 2020 à 9 h 47
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      I just can fathom how absorbing Eriksson’s helps us in any way. Buyouts are terrible due to their long term penalties.

      I don’t want to bridge Dahlin, I want him locked up at a good rate versus 11 mil in 3 years.

      None of those players we get are worth damaging our long term cap. We need a 2C not depth. Depth can be found without taking on huge black holes in the cap
       
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