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Rebuild Litmus Test

Créé par: Connys_Cucks
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 8 sept. 2020
Publié: 8 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I want to get a feel for what people think about these trades to kick-start a rebuild....if that became the route of the organization.
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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8 sept. 2020 à 1 h 51
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Lol Cozens is one of the best prospects in the world. No way the sabres would trade him
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8 sept. 2020 à 1 h 55
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Quoting: NixJets
Lol Cozens is one of the best prospects in the world. No way the sabres would trade him


There has been speculation on it (not just from Armchair Gm lol), Sabres get a reasonable contract to complete their 1/2 down the middle.
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 5
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Not getting enough for Monahan + Kylington

Getting to much for Gaudreau
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 16
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Quoting: ChuckyCheese
There has been speculation on it (not just from Armchair Gm lol), Sabres get a reasonable contract to complete their 1/2 down the middle.


Which would mean trading Mittlestadt not cozens.
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 17
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Quoting: NixJets
Lol Cozens is one of the best prospects in the world. No way the sabres would trade him


No hes one of the best drafted prospects with zero pro years in the world. Frankly that list isnt that hard to be on top of. Give it a month and he will be pushed way down on that list
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 18
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Quoting: Sabres923
Which would mean trading Mittlestadt not cozens.


Mittelstadt may get you a change in scenery player like Lias Andersson. He doesnt start the conversation for a legitimate 1C in their prime.
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 26
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Mittelstadt may get you a change in scenery player like Lias Andersson. He doesnt start the conversation for a legitimate 1C in their prime.

They would obviously have to add. But sabres are not trading Cozens. They have 4 untouchables
Eichel
Dahlin
Cozens
Jokiharju.
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 28
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Quoting: Sabres923
They would obviously have to add. But sabres are not trading Cozens. They have 4 untouchables
Eichel
Dahlin
Cozens
Jokiharju.


Well I hope Cozens can make the jump next year from the WHL. Because you arent getting Monahan without him
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 30
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well I hope Cozens can make the jump next year from the WHL. Because you arent getting Monahan without him

That’s fine. He’s coming off a down year anyway.
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 35
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well I hope Cozens can make the jump next year from the WHL. Because you arent getting Monahan without him


People always want the other team's best prospect in trades and they never get it.
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 37
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Quoting: DongLord23
People always want the other team's best prospect in trades and they never get it.


Um yeah, thats usually what happens when Team B is getting Team A's 25 year old 1C with 3 years of term.
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 39
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Um yeah, thats usually what happens when Team B is getting Team A's 25 year old 1C with 3 years of term.


If you do trade Monahan you're gonna be underwhelmed in what you get
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8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 41
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Quoting: DongLord23
If you do trade Monahan you're gonna be underwhelmed in what you get


I'd take that bet
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 47
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I'd take that bet


If he was a more well-rounded player he'd probably get a good return. But a bad defensive center coming off a rough season + a 6.3m cap hit and it's hard to see him getting more than a conditional 1st + roster player + a meh prospect.
8 sept. 2020 à 2 h 47
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If the Flyers gave up that much for Johnny, Chuck Fletcher should be run out of town. Konecny isn't far off Johnny in terms of what he brings, and TK has more grit to his game than Johnny. Frost and York are two top notch level prospects. Extreme overpay. You'd be lucky to get Konecny and one of those prospects, and even that is an overpay. Zero chance you'd get Konecny and both of those prospects.

In all honesty, the fit between philly and johnny is the hometown connection only. He doesn't really move the needle much for us to be honest. He's an overrated player. The package you have outlined should give the flyers an elite player.
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8 sept. 2020 à 5 h 29
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Mittelstadt may get you a change in scenery player like Lias Andersson. He doesnt start the conversation for a legitimate 1C in their prime.


If Monahan was a “legitimate 1C” then the Flames wouldn’t be trading him... more like “disappointing 1C”

And i sure hope there’s no way we give up Cozens (or our 1st this year) for him
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8 sept. 2020 à 5 h 35
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Quoting: Mintyfresh
If the Flyers gave up that much for Johnny, Chuck Fletcher should be run out of town. Konecny isn't far off Johnny in terms of what he brings, and TK has more grit to his game than Johnny. Frost and York are two top notch level prospects. Extreme overpay. You'd be lucky to get Konecny and one of those prospects, and even that is an overpay. Zero chance you'd get Konecny and both of those prospects.

In all honesty, the fit between philly and johnny is the hometown connection only. He doesn't really move the needle much for us to be honest. He's an overrated player. The package you have outlined should give the flyers an elite player.


Nice “homer” take
8 sept. 2020 à 5 h 54
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
If Monahan was a “legitimate 1C” then the Flames wouldn’t be trading him... more like “disappointing 1C”

And i sure hope there’s no way we give up Cozens (or our 1st this year) for him


Flames aren't trading him...
You would be lucky if Cozens or #8 ends up as good as Monahan
8 sept. 2020 à 5 h 56
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames aren't trading him...
You would be lucky if Cozens or #8 ends up as good as Monahan


Fine with me
Keep your disappointing 1C
I’d rather have Cozens for the next 10+ years
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8 sept. 2020 à 7 h 35
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Fine with me
Keep your disappointing 1C
I’d rather have Cozens for the next 10+ years


Well i hope you can keep Eichel for the next 2 then without him demanding a trade
8 sept. 2020 à 7 h 55
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well i hope you can keep Eichel for the next 2 then without him demanding a trade

No, you don’t. 😆
8 sept. 2020 à 8 h 9
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No, you don’t. 😆


Eichel for Monahan confirmed. Flames get fleeced for the mighty Sean Monahan.
8 sept. 2020 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Nice “homer” take


It's a "homer" take to think Johnny at this point is worth that much. Konecny outplayed him in the regular season this year. You aren't going to get Konecny plus our 2 best prospects. That package deserves something that impacts our team a little more.
8 sept. 2020 à 16 h 11
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No, you don’t. 😆


?
Why wouldn't I? Buffalo games are significantly cheaper to go see than my local Leafs games
8 sept. 2020 à 19 h 22
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Quoting: Mintyfresh
It's a "homer" take to think Johnny at this point is worth that much. Konecny outplayed him in the regular season this year. You aren't going to get Konecny plus our 2 best prospects. That package deserves something that impacts our team a little more.


Yeah dude... it’s “homer” af
Konecny having ONE season of better stats doesn’t make him a better player

And I’m not a Flames fan saying this
It’s obvious
 
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