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Créé par: Propeller09
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 7 sept. 2020
Publié: 7 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
25 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
68 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
13 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [Droits de RFA]
  2. Grzelcyk, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  3. Ritchie, Nick
  4. Studnicka, Jack
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
2.
BOS
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
PIT
  1. Krejci, David (1 250 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 381 723 $964 222 $1 940 000 $118 277 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 3
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
817 500 $817 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Bruins de Boston
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
764 167 $764 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3

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7 sept. 2020 à 18 h 10
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Boston has nothing that would fetch Eichel.
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7 sept. 2020 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Boston has nothing that would fetch Eichel.


Really? Nothing. Might want to rethink that.

Not saying this deal would do it, but without a doubt a deal around McAvoy or Pastrnak could be found.
7 sept. 2020 à 18 h 17
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Really? Nothing. Might want to rethink that.

Not saying this deal would do it, but without a doubt a deal around McAvoy or Pastrnak could be found.


No thanks.
7 sept. 2020 à 18 h 30
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Can’t see any interest from Pens.

A bit short on value for Eichel.
7 sept. 2020 à 18 h 43
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Quoting: Propeller09
Really? Nothing. Might want to rethink that.

Not saying this deal would do it, but without a doubt a deal around McAvoy or Pastrnak could be found.


Well, Bruins aren't trading them so it's equivalent to nothing.

Smith won't take that contract and stay away from Murray (if Rask retires). Vaakanainen is not ready for top pair duties. Not sure why you kept Lauko and Filipe at NHL level.
7 sept. 2020 à 19 h 53
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Krejci would probably be included in the Eichel deal. Makes money work, gives the Sabres a 1 year C fill in they can then flip at the deadline for more assets since trading Eichel means full blown rebuild. Replace Grzelcyk with Vaakanainen as he fits better with their new timeline (and apparently Eichel and Grzelcyk are close) and add at least 1 more 1st and you're probably about there.

Eichel for:

Krejci
Studnicka
Vaakanainen
Ritchie (assuming he's a cap dump)
DeBrusk
2 1sts (if Boston gets Eichel these are going to be very late)

Is it an overpay? Hard to say. Probably not for a top 10 C entering his prime with cost certainty for 6 years. Does Boston do it? Probably. But wait 3-4 years and the price probably comes down. Wait 6 years and you just gotta pay him...
7 sept. 2020 à 20 h 12
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Krejci would probably be included in the Eichel deal. Makes money work, gives the Sabres a 1 year C fill in they can then flip at the deadline for more assets since trading Eichel means full blown rebuild. Replace Grzelcyk with Vaakanainen as he fits better with their new timeline (and apparently Eichel and Grzelcyk are close) and add at least 1 more 1st and you're probably about there.

Eichel for:

Krejci
Studnicka
Vaakanainen
Ritchie (assuming he's a cap dump)
DeBrusk
2 1sts (if Boston gets Eichel these are going to be very late)

Is it an overpay? Hard to say. Probably not for a top 10 C entering his prime with cost certainty for 6 years. Does Boston do it? Probably. But wait 3-4 years and the price probably comes down. Wait 6 years and you just gotta pay him...


I don't think BOS has the prospect/pick assets to acquire Eichel. This deal would be two cap dumps, two B prospects and two late 1sts.

They would need to deal from their roster (McAvoy, Pastrnak, etc).

Fun to think about, but not really possible.
7 sept. 2020 à 20 h 23
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Was wondering why there weren’t any “Eichel trades” lately.
7 sept. 2020 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Boston has nothing that would fetch Eichel.


Pastrnak lead the league in goals. Heard of him? Mcavoy is better than both of them and is 22.
8 sept. 2020 à 10 h 22
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Pastrnak lead the league in goals. Heard of him? Mcavoy is better than both of them and is 22.


Conversation has to start with a C that has 1C potential at least. John Beecher?tears of joy
8 sept. 2020 à 10 h 58
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Conversation has to start with a C that has 1C potential at least. John Beecher?tears of joy


what did they get for O'reilly?
8 sept. 2020 à 11 h 0
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Conversation has to start with a C that has 1C potential at least. John Beecher?tears of joy


also - that would be Studnicka
8 sept. 2020 à 11 h 4
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also - that would be Studnicka


He doesn't have 1C potential.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 38
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He doesn't have 1C potential.


I disagree.

It looks like the Sabres thought Tage Thompson had #1 potential. I guess it's relative.

pretty much a Point a game player in AHL in 1st pro season. Bruins didn't bring him up
A) No need. Bergeron, Krejci & Coyle is strong down the middle. Rather him get 1st line reps in AHL than 8m a night on 4th line.
B) Didn't want him to be exposed to expansion draft.
C) You are making the mistake of only caring about where he was drafted.
D) will he be Mcdavid or Mckinnon - no. don't be silly. He could/will be good enough to be #1 on half the teams in the league though

"May 2020 – At the time of the AHL’s pause, Studnicka was leading Providence in virtually all offensive categories – goals, assists, points, and shots on goal. He had the third-best point total among all AHL rookies and was a primary reason why his team sat first in their division".
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 57
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I disagree.

It looks like the Sabres thought Tage Thompson had #1 potential. I guess it's relative.

pretty much a Point a game player in AHL in 1st pro season. Bruins didn't bring him up
A) No need. Bergeron, Krejci & Coyle is strong down the middle. Rather him get 1st line reps in AHL than 8m a night on 4th line.
B) Didn't want him to be exposed to expansion draft.
C) You are making the mistake of only caring about where he was drafted.
D) will he be Mcdavid or Mckinnon - no. don't be silly. He could/will be good enough to be #1 on half the teams in the league though

"May 2020 – At the time of the AHL’s pause, Studnicka was leading Providence in virtually all offensive categories – goals, assists, points, and shots on goal. He had the third-best point total among all AHL rookies and was a primary reason why his team sat first in their division".


hahaha. Nobody in Buffalo thought Tage freaking Thompson had a first line potential. We don't care how you value Studnicka. He's not gonna beat out some other offers teams and he isn't gonna a top 6 player in Boston anyway.
8 sept. 2020 à 13 h 52
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hahaha. Nobody in Buffalo thought Tage freaking Thompson had a first line potential. We don't care how you value Studnicka. He's not gonna beat out some other offers teams and he isn't gonna a top 6 player in Boston anyway.


Lol.

No what returns a huge value. A guy that everyone knows wants out.

Studnicka is going to be a top 6 player in Boston. Possibly as soon as next year. He was already out there on the PP in the playoffs. It seems like you missed the parts where he was called the best player on the ice at the the WJC (by far). You see when you have a good team, you really don't need to rush guys. Give them time to develop. Bruins got burned by moving some guys a little too early (Wheeler, Smith) and they aren't going to let it happen again.

Again, I don't know what you think you could get back, but it's not as much as you think. He is clearly not good enough to do it on his own, so I am not sure who would be lining up to give you 3x the value. Unless you can get a 1 for 1 trade with some other unhappy Center, you are not going to get what you think is a good return. Go ahead, wait it out, until he demands the trade. return will be fantastic.

So, please go ahead and tell me a trade you would envison or be ok with. I can't find a trade partner that fits what you want. Maybe Pierre Luc Dubois or Monahan, but I don't think CBJ does that and Monaham isn't he answer.

Detroit, but It doesn't make sense for them if they move Larkin. They are slightly better, but still not good. Velano was out scored by Studnicka so he isn't the one.

Ryan Johansen and ?

you will not get (McDavid, McKinnon, Draisaitl, Barzal, Barkov, Point, Aho, Peterson)
8 sept. 2020 à 14 h 30
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Conversation has to start with a C that has 1C potential at least. John Beecher?tears of joy


Why? D men are more important than centers.
8 sept. 2020 à 14 h 42
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Why? D men are more important than centers.


We have a lot of defensive prospects. Need some C maybe W depends on the prospect.
8 sept. 2020 à 17 h 13
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We have a lot of defensive prospects. Need some C maybe W depends on the prospect.


Who is we? We’re talking about a jack eichel trade. Organizational prospect depth doesn’t matter for a move of that magnitude.
8 sept. 2020 à 17 h 26
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Who is we? We’re talking about a jack eichel trade. Organizational prospect depth doesn’t matter for a move of that magnitude.


We=Buffalo.

C and W is the main ask in the deal considering our organizational depth for Eichel.
8 sept. 2020 à 17 h 32
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We=Buffalo.

C and W is the main ask in the deal considering our organizational depth for Eichel.


If a GM is thinking of trading Jack Eichel, and they even consider organizational depth they should be fired on the spot. Such a bad mentality.
8 sept. 2020 à 18 h 10
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If a GM is thinking of trading Jack Eichel, and they even consider organizational depth they should be fired on the spot. Such a bad mentality.


We'll you need to replace him lol
9 sept. 2020 à 8 h 0
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We'll you need to replace him lol


Why?
9 sept. 2020 à 8 h 17
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Why?


We have no centers. If your trading your only competent one on the roster you need someone to offset that loss.
9 sept. 2020 à 10 h 11
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We have no centers. If your trading your only competent one on the roster you need someone to offset that loss.


Why? If the Sabres trade Eichel it’s a rebuild. Also, moving Eichel doesn’t mean that the Sabres are barred from making trades or signing other players. A trade involving Eichel should only concern maximizing value.
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