Double offer sheet TB BOTH ACCEPTED

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Créé par: gdg_9

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 6 sept. 2020

Publié: 6 sept. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

This isn't likely to happen, since GM's don't typically offer sheet. But if any GM was going to do it, I could see Dubas doing it, especially to a division rival.
There's no way Tampa could match both with their cap situation, so your likelihood of getting at least one would be extremely high.
It would be dependant on the Leafs getting their 3rd rounder back from LA first, and they'd have to dump more salary if both accepted.
And of course both players would actually have to agree to sign the offer sheets, which is far from guaranteed.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	1	1 200 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	1	1 750 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik	1	700 000 $
Cirelli, Anthony	4	5 750 000 $
Cernak, Erik	4	3 750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Spezza, Jason	1	700 000 $
Maroon, Patrick	1	1 000 000 $
Grant, Derek	1	725 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony	5 750 000 $	Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Cernak, Erik	3 750 000 $	Choix de 2e ronde en 2021

Transactions

TOR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

LAK

Kerfoot, Alexander

TOR

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Team doesn't matter.
Johnsson shopped and dealt to whatever team makes best offer of picks/prospects

ANA

Johnsson, Andreas

TOR

Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Shopped and dealt to whichever team makes best offer of picks/prospects/league min player

ANA

Engvall, Pierre

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	81 477 283 $	0 $	0 $	22 717 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas 821 667 $821 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 4	Cirelli, Anthony 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Barabanov, Alexander 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
	Grant, Derek 725 000 $725 000 $ AG, C UFA - 3	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Maroon, Patrick 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Gauthier, Frédérik 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 10

Campabee

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Bad news for you Tampa can match the Cireli contract easily and would instantly and because of the 10% off season overage they can also match the Cernak offersheet and move someone before the season starts.

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6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 10

justaBoss

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NEITHER'S ACCEPTED you mean.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 11

C21

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You're not getting either player with those offers

palhal a aimé ceci.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 14

Alfie11

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Huh? Dubas is the LAST gm I could see doing an offer sheet lol

Also those aren’t threatening enough for Tampa to not just instantly match and work out the details later, and it’s tough to even consider when you don’t currently own all the necessary picks right now

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 18

gdg_9

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Quoting: Campabee

Maybe... but moving other salary won't be easy because of the flat cap and the fact that most of their big salary players have at least some form of trade protection.
Either way, even if they do match both, from a Leafs perspective, you haven't lost anything and you've forced a division rival to pay more than they may have planned and weaken their team elsewhere.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 22

gdg_9

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Quoting: Alfie11

Huh? Dubas is the LAST gm I could see doing an offer sheet lol

Curious why you think that?
Dubas has shown that he doesn't really care about the "norms" in the NHL or what other people think.
I don't see him having a problem going against the old school GM code on offer sheets, as long as he sees good value on it.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 24

Campabee

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Quoting: gdg_9

Any of the large contacts could just agree to waive to be sent to the Panthers who are likely to need to replace at least one if not both Dadanov and Hoffman

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 25

EnvironmentalTwister

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rather trade for Cernak instead

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 27

gdg_9

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Quoting: Campabee

Any of the large contacts could just agree to waive to be sent to the Panthers who are likely to need to replace at least one if not both Dadanov and Hoffman

Sure, they could... but would you want to leave Tampa Bay to play for the Panthers?
Also, Florida's owner has apparently mandated they cut a ton of salary, not add expensive players.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 29

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Quoting: EnvironmentalTwister

rather trade for Cernak instead

Fair... if you can agree to a trade for similar value, then you do it.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 36

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Campabee

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Quoting: gdg_9

Sure, they could... but would you want to leave Tampa Bay to play for the Panthers?
Also, Florida's owner has apparently mandated they cut a ton of salary, not add expensive players.

They may very well have but that doesn't mean they will pass up on a quality player like Killorn just cause he has a 5 Mil contract

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 43

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palhal

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Seems to this illusion that offer sheets HAVE to be signed by the player. Lots of teams are in a cap position to offer players more $$$ than the Leafs can.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 46

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gdg_9

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Quoting: palhal

Seems to this illusion that offer sheets HAVE to be signed by the player.

Of course... that's why I addressed this upfront in the description.

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 48

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Alfie11

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Quoting: gdg_9

Dubas is the kind of guy that likes to please everybody. It’s why he’s not the greatest negotiator as far as contracts go, and why he always takes media heat (he takes the blame cuz he’s always apologizing). It takes a real hardass who doesn’t care to do an offer sheet these days. Bergevin and like, Rutherford (who is old enough to not care, already in the HHOF) are the only guys I could see pulling off an actual offer sheet. Maybe Wilson cuz he’s desperate

6 sept. 2020 à 14 h 52

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gdg_9

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Quoting: Alfie11

Going to have to agree to disagree here...

If Dubas was the type to try to please everybody, he would spend more on "toughness" and "grit" like many have been clamouring for, rather than loading up on expensive top end skill up front.
Dubas is definitely a "players' GM" in terms of defending his team in the media, etc., but in terms of building the roster, I think he is the furthest thing from trying to "please everyone".

6 sept. 2020 à 15 h 12

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Kings decline and will keep the draft pick

6 sept. 2020 à 15 h 39

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Wait a minute. You make two offer sheets when you can't afford both? How does that work?

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