Murray is probably worth more but that will all depends on how much intrest he attracts. If they move him it will be after the FA frenzy to a team that struck out. In my opinion anyway.

Just because people are hard on this website doesn't make them right. Not a single one has ever been close to a real gm. Murray will get much more than just a 2nd round pick.

If I trade Murray for a 2nd +, I will get 25 reply that Murray isn’t worth that and CHI pass. At least with this trade we could discuss this offseason but it’s too realistic and no ones gonna reply lmao

Couldn't have said it better. Bjugstad is always traded even though he's missed a full season over the last 2 and most of this one.

Murray depends on the contract he signs. He has on year until ufa. Does he go to arbitration and sign a one year contract?? Does he sign a reasonable long term deal with Chicago?? If it's a one year deal Chicago is better off keeping their pick and re-signing Crawford for one year...

Its not that a #1 goalie shouldnt cost a 2nd. The hardest part is the "goalie market" Markstrom, Lehner, Crow are and much better goalies and dont cost anything asset wise. Holtby is debatable, but also a UFA.

Agree, but I’m trading Murray to a team who’ll be welling to sign mid to long term contract, otherwise it’s useless trading for him

Lehner Markstrom > Murray
Murray > Crawford Greiss Khudobin Dell Talbot Smith Elliot etc
A lot of team needs a goalie, so the team who doesn’t land Lehner or Markstrom ( they probably resign with their respective team ) might trade for Murray since he’s better than the other option I named

Incorrect 100% on Crawford. He was literally the best goalie in the entire NHL in high danger situations last year. He was better than Lehner to be perfectly honest.

I think the demand your implying isn't realistic. There are ALOT more goalies out there than teams looking for a goalie.

The Wild have no need or want of Bjugstad.

Crawford allows bad goals all the time, not because he was the best goalie in the high danger zone means he’s better than Murray. Look at him during the playoffs, he was horrible, sometimes really good, way too inconsistent

Like you have no need of Pateryn, at least you’re getting a Center to replace Koivu and could bounce back to get trade at the TDL. You’re the first person to ever complain for a swap Bjugstad Pateryn get a grip

Maybe...just maybe...the leagues LAST place defense had something to do with that. Crow was one of their best players all year long. Its why he was given more games than Lehner.

Fair enough

You're getting a little oversensitive.

We don't need Pateryn either, but we need Bjugstad even less. But that doesn't mean we should make this move just cause it does the Penguins a favor. We have bottom centers to replace Koivu, we don't need Bjugstad. As it is he wouldn't replace Kunin or Hartman on the right wing either, and he's not a top 6 player.

It's a no, and to think I should fall in line and agree to it because you like it is ridiculous. It's a no.

Because it makes senses
Hockey trade
C : Staal JEE Bjugstad Rask
RW : Fiala Kunin Zucc Hartman
LW : Parise Greenway Donato Foligno
Like you have a roaster place for him
Like I said if you don’t make the playoffs comes TDL and he has a decent season without too much injury, you can flip him for a decent pick comes TDL

I told you, very clearly, we don't.


Greenway-Eriksson Ek-Kunin
Foligno-Sturm-Hartman

That's our bottom six and he doesn't push anyone out. If you want Pateryn, make a proposal that helps us. Bjugstad doesn't, and there's no value in flipping him at the deadline. We could just move Pateryn to a team that will give us a pick now.

Who’s your 1C 2C outside of Staal ?

That's being addressed this offseason.

Oh I see, if not would you do the trade proposal above

I'd be cool with Murray for a 2nd, but I honestly think Pittsburgh's asking price will be a lot higher and I don't want the Hawks paying more than that for him.

the big issue with Murray is he wants paid 6m+ who is willing to take that type of risk? Before the season he wanted 8 million? think about is... he isnt going to sign another bridge deal or discount.... are GM going to risk assets and $$ on a him? more than likely but i imagine Murray will go for a equal risk/reward type... lets say a good example would be Murray for Montour something like that

I didn’t know he wanted 6M + I thought around 5ish
Forgot to mention Holtby tho

lol he's been pretty forgettable this year /since 2016 lol. Yeah i think if Murray wanted a reasonable salary the penguins wouldnt want to move him all things considered but i believe if he goes to arbitration and getsa 1 year deal he'll be a UFA. the FA market is deep but most goalies are older and i think people will learn from FLA massive mistake make Murray more desirable.

What are you talking about? Are you sure you're watching the same guy? In 9 games and 30 goals allowed, he'd probably want 3 of those back otherwise he was outstanding. You have to actually watch all the games and every shot before you pass judgement and based on your comment, it's clear you didn't.

Agree and that is to backup Crawford for a year or two. Murray is not better then crawford, not a chance we should pay more then a 2nd and maybe a middle tier prospect. The goalie market is way too flooded for people to overpay for goalies. Jake Allen just set the benchmark for goalies and it's not good for teams thinking they can get a payout on trading goalies.