Skinner still led the team in quality chances he has up years and down years. I can confidently say if the sabres get a real center on the 2nd line, not Marcus Johansson he’s a 3 LW he will bounce back. Or if you put him on a line with Eichel again.

Why in the **** would you ever want to trade the 8th overall pick for a couple seasons of Nurse?

I have no doubt skinner is better then his numbers from this year but i think his contract is awful for how the sabres need to go forward. I dont see Skinner as key contributor outside of the next 4 years, but the team inst even projected to make playoffs next season. The time line i see for the sabres being contenders with this current rebuild is at least 3-5 years away. meaning skinner is past his prime and taking a big cut of teams cap, unlike turris who is off the books in the middle of it.

to have 2 decent LD in top 4, and why not sign him longer afterwards

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could probable be the 11th too but i take mercer with either pick anyways, just helps get deal done

Wow. No from NSH.

The Oilers aren’t moving Nurse until Broberg is ready to take his spot and that’s not this yr.

Both of these trades are extremely bad for buf

^above^why all trades are bad on capf, fans of both teams cant see value of other players on other teams.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/wowza-edmonton-oilers-will-move-out-two-out-of-their-top-4-d-men-nhl-insider-predicts

Trade proposals can be bad for both teams. BUF has the cap space to keep Skinner and pray he returns to form. NSH doesn't. Rinne would just be a one year stop gap for BUF, and they're not looking like they'll be a contenders yet, so why roll the dice on the more expensive vet? Talent wise, Hutton is a downgrade on Rinne and doesn't make sense for NSH, given they're still looking to be competitive and Saros hasn't had the chance to prove he can be a full time starter yet (not to mention trading Rinne in his final year would be heresy to the fanbase). Montour doesn't make sense for NSH's roster, so if BUF wants to trade him, they'd do better with another team. Trading down in the draft is pretty much a non-starter for the Preds, as the prospect depth is very shallow right now. BUF has a lot more in development right now and already owns a top 10 pick, so I can't see the 11th pick being as dear to them as it is for NSH.

And if Nurse doesn't want to sign then you've wasted a good pick, could recoup something for Nurse in another trade but not likely as good as an 8th overall pick.

So you believe every thing you read, this was some ex GM spitball his own ideas that has no ties to the oilers, again the Oilers aren’t moving on from Nurse until Broberg is ready to take his spot Klefbom isn’t been move his contract is to good cap wise for the oilers to move Bear is part of our future for yrs to come, Larson can be had for the right return and Russel is available for need cap room. Larson and Russel both have played in the top four if your looking for validate the article.

so you are saying i should believe what you are writing because you know more than an ex gm? regardless of the hypocrisy this is an arm chair GM thing i can trade who ever and give any reason i want. your points are valid but i just see nurse call out the team at end of playoffs read that article and think hey why not.

what if the 8th pick is a flop and doesnt ever make team think nylander, dal colle, g reinhart or even N Patrick. Anything can happen but nurse has much less range in what you can get because he has more or less settled into the type of player hes going to be in nhl.

alot o very valid points tho i disagree to some of it.
I made the cap exchange between the teams near equal 11m$(from nsh) and 10.45m$(to nsh) before the cost of montour is added
montour does fit into 2nd pair roll or at least challenge Fabbro for it. RHD's signed for next year are Ellis, Fabbro, Santini and Allard for the big club and farm.
Rinne has history of being better than hutton but is he 4m$ better now i think not. Rinne also didnt really push saros to much if you look at the numbers saros was way better.
name a team that is flush with prospects that is pushing for a cup. good teams generally use there picks/ prospects to do a push for cup.
NSH did that to get Granlund and turris, not great results but proof of point.
more or less nsh only accepts deal if they think they can push for cup with current core. otherwise i think you'd be right and they would want to keep there pick.

Ok, but you can't say I made it nearly equal, except for the $3.5-4M or whatever it takes to sign Montour. That's a big imbalance, you can't just ignore. Not to mention contract lengths are a factor that play into it as well. The difference in Turris and Skinner's contracts isn't just the not insignificant extra $3M Skinner makes, but the extra three years on his deal. Neither contract is great obviously, but Skinner's handcuffs a team much more.

thats a way to look at it or you can say skinners 54 goals in last 2 years would be more helpful then the 16 turris gave for the extra 3m$ per season.

Even if Skinner miraculously has another 40 goal season in him (without Eichel propping him up), his contract is still terrible. Worse than Turris'.