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Hey folks. Just curious if any of the teams in the 8-12 range of the draft would have any interest in trading down to number 15. If you follow any of these teams and think they might be open to that, please let me know and perhaps suggest a potential price tag for the drop in position. Thanks in advance.
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          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 6
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          It really depends who’s left on the board for most of these teams. Florida maybe if they could still take Someone like Guhle. I don’t think Nashville would be interested because they could take an elite goal score like Quinn at that spot. If Lundell is off the board, I could see the jets willing to move down. I don’t see Minnesota being interested at all. They have a ton of really good options at that spot. Don’t think Buffalo would be interested either if they can add one of Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond/Rossi at that spot
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          Dont think the Sabres or wild are a good fit with the drop being a bit too much to be enticed by whoever is on the block for the leafs.

          Might be able to get the Jets to bite
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          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 10
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          Quoting: Stadel
          Dont think the Sabres or wild are a good fit with the drop being a bit too much to be enticed by whoever is on the block for the leafs.

          Might be able to get the Jets to bite


          Matthews and #15 for Laine and #10.

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          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 10
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          It really depends who’s left on the board for most of these teams. Florida maybe if they could still take Someone like Guhle. I don’t think Nashville would be interested because they could take an elite goal score like Quinn at that spot. If Lundell is off the board, I could see the jets willing to move down. I don’t see Minnesota being interested at all. They have a ton of really good options at that spot. Don’t think Buffalo would be interested either if they can add one of Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond/Rossi at that spot


          Yeah, I didn't figure there would be any interest from some of these teams, but as I'm not quite as 'in depth' with them, I thought it was worth the ask.

          What do you think the Jets would want if Lundell was off the board?
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          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 12
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          Yeah, I didn't figure there would be any interest from some of these teams, but as I'm not quite as 'in depth' with them, I thought it was worth the ask.


          For sure man, it’s great when you’re aware of what other teams needs are and I find you can just get information from the comment section.

          By the way just curious on who you would want the Leafs to trade up for in particular?
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 13
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          Yeah, I didn't figure there would be any interest from some of these teams, but as I'm not quite as 'in depth' with them, I thought it was worth the ask.


          There's a ton of pressure on the Sabres, so I could see them trading out for NHL talent like the Yotes did a while back. But trading down is awkward cause it doesnt improve them quickly enough short term to make it worth missing out long term on a top 10 prospect.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 16
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          Honestly knowing Dubas, he'll trade #15 to move DOWN in the Draft and manage to pick up an extra 2nd Rder for his troubles. That way if he signs Clifford, he'll have a 2nd Rder to replace the one he loses to L.A.

          Maybe Ott, who has #17 I believe and tons of 2nd Rder's, maybe Dubas can give them Bracco too, since the Sens love Leaf hand me downs.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 21
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          Quoting: bunzy1034
          For sure man, it’s great when you’re aware of what other teams needs are and I find you can just get information from the comment section.

          By the way just curious on who you would want the Leafs to trade up for in particular?


          It's not so much about any particular player, more like a 'range' or 'tier', I suppose. There's just a few guys that I'm holding out hope for at 15, but I'm not confident they fall that far (Jarvis and Quinn are prominent). Trading into one one of these positions (12 being the lowest) would guarantee that they get one of the guys that I would be thrilled with at 15, or perhaps even better if somebody falls or if they were able to move into one of the higher slots that I listed.
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          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 23
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          Honestly knowing Dubas, he'll trade #15 to move DOWN in the Draft and manage to pick up an extra 2nd Rder for his troubles. That way if he signs Clifford, he'll have a 2nd Rder to replace the one he loses to L.A.

          Maybe Ott, who has #17 I believe and tons of 2nd Rder's, maybe Dubas can give them Bracco too, since the Sens love Leaf hand me downs.


          I don't think Ottawa has 17. Pretty sure it's looking like a late 20's pick. Wouldn't mind trading down depending on the deal and who is still on the board.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 24
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          Trading down a few spots makes more sense...once top-9 (Lafreniere, Stuetzle, Perfetti, Raymond, Drysdale, Byfield, Holtz, Rossi and Sanderson) gone...a few guys 10-12 are interesting, but then jump down to picks 13-25, which are pretty close in value. So unless you can move into top-9, better move is trading down to around #20-#22.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 26
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          Quoting: Stadel
          There's a ton of pressure on the Sabres, so I could see them trading out for NHL talent like the Yotes did a while back. But trading down is awkward cause it doesnt improve them quickly enough short term to make it worth missing out long term on a top 10 prospect.


          Reinhart and 8 for Nylander and 15. Book it!!

          Seriously though, yeah they are in an odd spot. Didn't have high hopes for a trade down with them, just included them because they were in the range that I was looking at.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 29
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          I don't think Ottawa has 17. Pretty sure it's looking like a late 20's pick. Wouldn't mind trading down depending on the deal and who is still on the board.


          Yea...that'll be the NYI 1st Rder and they are still in the playoffs.

          This also depends if Dubas trades for a Top 4 Dman too (that pick will probably be involved).
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Trading down a few spots makes more sense...once top-9 (Lafreniere, Stuetzle, Perfetti, Raymond, Drysdale, Byfield, Holtz, Rossi and Sanderson) gone...a few guys 10-12 are interesting, but then jump down to picks 13-25, which are pretty close in value. So unless you can move into top-9, better move is trading down to around #20-#22.


          Wouldn't object to it depending on who's still available. As you said though, there're some interesting guys in that 10-12 range and I wouldn't mind nabbing one of them.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 30
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          The Wild desperately need a center, so they're more likely to try to trade up to get one then trade down. I could see them trying to trade up to 5 or 6 if a guy they like is still there.
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          Yea...that'll be the NYI 1st Rder and they are still in the playoffs.

          This also depends if Dubas trades for a Top 4 Dman too (that pick will probably be involved).


          Could be, but there are ways around that if they really want to keep the pick.
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          The Wild desperately need a center, so they're more likely to try to trade up to get one then trade down. I could see them trying to trade up to 5 or 6 if a guy they like is still there.


          Yeah, they were probably the team I had the least hope for in this mix (maybe Buffalo).
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 39
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          Wouldn't object to it depending on who's still available. As you said though, there're some interesting guys in that 10-12 range and I wouldn't mind nabbing one of them.


          (1) what would Leafs part with (along #15oa) to get Lundell? Or Rossi if he falls?
          (2) what would Leafs expect to jump back 8-10 spots?
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 49
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          (1) what would Leafs part with (along #15oa) to get Lundell? Or Rossi if he falls?
          (2) what would Leafs expect to jump back 8-10 spots?


          The thing with question 1 is that it's tough to answer without knowing what team they are trading with. Are they looking to add additional picks? players? prospects in the Leafs system? some combination of those things? I'm not super high on Lundell, so I'd give more for Rossi than him, but that's tough to answer past that.

          As for question two, assuming certain players that I like are gone, I'd consider trading down to 20-30 for an additional 2nd or a prospect that I like.
          1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 59
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          The thing with question 1 is that it's tough to answer without knowing what team they are trading with. Are they looking to add additional picks? players? prospects in the Leafs system? some combination of those things? I'm not super high on Lundell, so I'd give more for Rossi than him, but that's tough to answer past that.

          As for question two, assuming certain players that I like are gone, I'd consider trading down to 20-30 for an additional 2nd or a prospect that I like.


          Say...
          NYR: Lafreniere
          LAK: Stuetzle
          OTT: Perfetti
          DET: Raymond
          OTT: Drysdale
          ANA: Byfield
          NJD: Holtz

          Buffalo is on the clock...what do you offer them?

          BUF: Rossi

          Minnesota is on the clock, what do you offer them?

          MIN: Sanderson

          Winnipeg is on the clock, what do you offer them?

          Maybe Lundell, Quinn, Schneider, Askarov, Barron go 10-14

          Toronto is on the clock?

          (big jump in talent from #8 to #15 overall)
          1 sept. 2020 à 20 h 22
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          Say...
          NYR: Lafreniere
          LAK: Stuetzle
          OTT: Perfetti
          DET: Raymond
          OTT: Drysdale
          ANA: Byfield
          NJD: Holtz

          Buffalo is on the clock...what do you offer them?

          BUF: Rossi

          Minnesota is on the clock, what do you offer them?

          MIN: Sanderson

          Winnipeg is on the clock, what do you offer them?

          Maybe Lundell, Quinn, Schneider, Askarov, Barron go 10-14

          Toronto is on the clock?

          (big jump in talent from #8 to #15 overall)


          Well... Buffalo and Minnesota were the teams that I had the least hope for when I made this. Their picks are on the high end of the range that I listed and I really don't think the needs line up.

          Buffalo is looking for help right now so as @Stadel said earlier, trading down would be an awkward move for the Sabres. With Rossi still there, I'd be willing to pay a good amount... assuming #15 is already going the other way, any of pick #44, prospects not named Robertson or Sandin, and a fair number of roster players (though I'm not sure we have what the Sabres are looking for in that department) would be up for grabs.

          I just really don't think there's a deal to be made with Minnesota.

          As you alluded to earlier, after number 9 there's still some interesting guys, but it's a noticeable drop-off. To move up into the 10-12 range, I'm not sure I'd do more than the #44 pick or equivalent value in different forms.

          If Toronto is on the clock and the draft has gone as you listed, I probably take Jarvis.
          1 sept. 2020 à 20 h 37
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          8th and Montour for Nylander and 15th
          1 sept. 2020 à 20 h 40
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          8th and Montour for Nylander and 15th


          No...
          1 sept. 2020 à 22 h 41
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          8th and Montour for Nylander and 15th


          8th and Montour for 15th and Sandin...

          Corner the market on Rasmi
           
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