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Créé par: GloryPlay
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 1 sept. 2020
Publié: 1 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just throwing out another scenario to see what sticks. Moved Murray, Bjugstad, Johnson, Riikola, and Bjorkvist. Added Pettersen, Joseph, and Demelo. Re-signed Jarry, McCann, Lafferty, and Simon.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 750 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 400 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
2.
PIT
  1. Joseph, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]
TBL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (DET)
DET
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper
  2. Johnson, Jack (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
This doesn't necessarily have to be Detroit just any team with cap who would be interested in a pick
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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Logo de DET
Logo de PIT
2021
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Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de ANA
2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 113 508 $0 $1 062 500 $5 386 492 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 39
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5th for Johnson ($1M ret), Bjorkqvist, 2nd

Honestly, you get the pick of one: Bjorkqvist, 2nd, $1M ret. ... NOT all three, not even two.

But Crosby is not letting Johnson get traded so it is irrelevant. The sooner Pens fans accept this the sooner you can move on.
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1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 45
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Quoting: Yojimbo
5th for Johnson ($1M ret), Bjorkqvist, 2nd

Honestly, you get the pick of one: Bjorkqvist, 2nd, $1M ret. ... NOT all three, not even two.

But Crosby is not letting Johnson get traded so it is irrelevant. The sooner Pens fans accept this the sooner you can move on.


I don't think you understand that trade with Johnson. The penguins would be giving up a prospect (evaluate that prospect how you will but he's been mentioned in other AGMs), the 2nd, and retaining value on Johnson's deal. Now if you want to say a 5th is too much for that sure you could convince me to drop that to a 6th or 7th. I don't think Crosby is the one pining for Johnson to be on this team anymore I'm sure he'd like for his friend to stick around and I'm also sure given a player of his stature he probably doesn't feel one guy is an anchor on the team like a fan base does but since the season ended there is one guy Crosby has told Rutherford to not move and that's Malkin. I honestly don't think Johnson gets moved but this is just a scenario not something that I definitely think is going to happen.
1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 1
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JJ would cost like a second to dump. Doing so with retention makes no sense for Pittsburgh
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1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 5
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JJ would cost like a second to dump. Doing so with retention makes no sense for Pittsburgh


I could be convinced that no retention is necessary but if you go to other scenarios involving Johnson you've got people saying moving Johnson starts with a first so this scenario was my compromise on the two. I think a second and bjorkqvist could get the job done. I also want to be clear I don't think Rutherford would do any retention because he doesn't seem to want to admit that the deal was a mistake but this was just another scenario to move his contract. Also the retention made the contract exactly like Hunwicks from a few years back so there was that factor as well for why I chose the 1 million in retention.
1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 27
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I could be convinced that no retention is necessary but if you go to other scenarios involving Johnson you've got people saying moving Johnson starts with a first so this scenario was my compromise on the two. I think a second and bjorkqvist could get the job done. I also want to be clear I don't think Rutherford would do any retention because he doesn't seem to want to admit that the deal was a mistake but this was just another scenario to move his contract. Also the retention made the contract exactly like Hunwicks from a few years back so there was that factor as well for why I chose the 1 million in retention.


Pens typically don't retain salary and his buyout really isn't that bad, summer 2021 it probably happens as is
1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Pens typically don't retain salary and his buyout really isn't that bad, summer 2021 it probably happens as is


he's bought out next year.
He is either traded this year, or bought out.
The cost to keep him is the same as to play him. They will buy him out and move on.
1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 0
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I don't think you understand that trade with Johnson. The penguins would be giving up a prospect (evaluate that prospect how you will but he's been mentioned in other AGMs), the 2nd, and retaining value on Johnson's deal. Now if you want to say a 5th is too much for that sure you could convince me to drop that to a 6th or 7th. I don't think Crosby is the one pining for Johnson to be on this team anymore I'm sure he'd like for his friend to stick around and I'm also sure given a player of his stature he probably doesn't feel one guy is an anchor on the team like a fan base does but since the season ended there is one guy Crosby has told Rutherford to not move and that's Malkin. I honestly don't think Johnson gets moved but this is just a scenario not something that I definitely think is going to happen.


No, you are grossly overpaying to move Johnson.
1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 4
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I could be convinced that no retention is necessary but if you go to other scenarios involving Johnson you've got people saying moving Johnson starts with a first so this scenario was my compromise on the two. I think a second and bjorkqvist could get the job done. I also want to be clear I don't think Rutherford would do any retention because he doesn't seem to want to admit that the deal was a mistake but this was just another scenario to move his contract. Also the retention made the contract exactly like Hunwicks from a few years back so there was that factor as well for why I chose the 1 million in retention.


You've got people on this site saying that Andersen in Toronto is a top 5 goalie in the league. You've got people on this site saying that Saad is the premier 2way power forward in the league.

No one thought that Eriksson's contract was moveable. No one thought that Rutherford would be able to move Gudbranson without adding a 2nd, if not a 1st.

Rutherford is not retaining, and giving a 2nd, and adding a prospect to move Johnson.
1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: pharrow
he's bought out next year.
He is either traded this year, or bought out.
The cost to keep him is the same as to play him. They will buy him out and move on.


Friedman's 31 Thoughts ... Hearing that Johnson is not being made available to trade.

Crosby wants him in Pittsburgh, he is staying in Pittsburgh. Accept it.
1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 42
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Quoting: Yojimbo
No, you are grossly overpaying to move Johnson.


Ok I see what you're saying it was just worded oddly in the last comment. This was just a scenario may be an overpay but its something that could be done. I personally don't really have any issues with Johnson being on the team I'd prefer that 3D slot being used on someone cheaper but that's not the biggest issue facing the team.
1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 46
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Friedman's 31 Thoughts ... Hearing that Johnson is not being made available to trade.

Crosby wants him in Pittsburgh, he is staying in Pittsburgh. Accept it.


Which 31 thoughts did Friedman say this because this hasn't been reported by any Pittsburgh reporters and if Friedman reported it the local reporters would at least be commenting on his report. Also why do you seem so bothered by fans wanting him off the team? There are a multitude of reasons for why Pittsburgh fans want him gone and them armchair GMing it isn't that big of a deal
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You've got people on this site saying that Andersen in Toronto is a top 5 goalie in the league. You've got people on this site saying that Saad is the premier 2way power forward in the league.

No one thought that Eriksson's contract was moveable. No one thought that Rutherford would be able to move Gudbranson without adding a 2nd, if not a 1st.

Rutherford is not retaining, and giving a 2nd, and adding a prospect to move Johnson.


Rutherford probably isn't doing that but neither of us are Rutherford. This is a website to armchair GM and that's what we both did this isn't a practice in what will the team do just something that could be done.
1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 17
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Friedman's 31 Thoughts ... Hearing that Johnson is not being made available to trade.

Crosby wants him in Pittsburgh, he is staying in Pittsburgh. Accept it.


yeah the 95% wrong but read me for click bait crowd, who cares what they say.

Here are facts. JJ was out the door on the zucker trade but Phil nixed it.
So lets not pretend he won't get traded or bought out.
They did their part, they signed him.
1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 29
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yeah the 95% wrong but read me for click bait crowd, who cares what they say.

Here are facts. JJ was out the door on the zucker trade but Phil nixed it.
So lets not pretend he won't get traded or bought out.
They did their part, they signed him.


Kessel might have mixed the Wild trade, but Johnson being part of it was just rumor.
1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 30
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.Also why do you seem so bothered by fans wanting him off the team? There are a multitude of reasons for why Pittsburgh fans want him gone and them armchair GMing it isn't that big of a deal


Because it makes the AGMs worthless and a waste of time. No better than all of our worst players for all of your best.

His cap hit is going to be there. Accept it, work around it.
1 sept. 2020 à 19 h 34
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Because it makes the AGMs worthless and a waste of time. No better than all of our worst players for all of your best.

His cap hit is going to be there. Accept it, work around it.


Fair enough check my last AGM I'm working on a scenario with that exact situation
1 sept. 2020 à 20 h 11
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Kessel might have mixed the Wild trade, but Johnson being part of it was just rumor.


I don't think that was rumor. I think the deal was as solid as it came. It was JJ and Rask back the other way.

Now I'm not saying the Rask contract is any better, but it's just a fact. He would have moved him if he could have.
I don't think Crosby is getting in the way of that. Even he knows he's bad for him winning another cup at this point. But he got him a deal and that's that. Where it's played out isn't really the issue.

But no doubt he's bought out next year. I honestly don't think an aging Crosby has much leverage at this point considering what they have already done for JJ for him.
 
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