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Trade with NYI

Créé par: MatthewsDynasty
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2020
Publié: 31 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 350 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 250 000 $
45 000 000 $
1700 000 $
1950 000 $
33 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
TOR
NYI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
NJD
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
5.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
OTT
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2020
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Logo de SJS
Logo de STL
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de NYI
Logo de VGK
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
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Logo de TOR
2022
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Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 084 084 $0 $0 $1 415 916 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
821 667 $821 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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Is this relatively fair? (the NYI trade)
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31 août 2020 à 18 h 49
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@OldNYIfan how is this?
31 août 2020 à 18 h 51
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Quoting: MatthewsDynasty
@OldNYIfan how is this?


Well I am sure he is going to love it... other than the cap issues.


For Toronto... it is gross.
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31 août 2020 à 18 h 52
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Well I am sure he is going to love it... other than the cap issues.


For Toronto... it is gross.


Nylander is certainly a big help but the Isles are losing more "important" (meaning relative to their own team) than they are getting back. Beau is turning into a bonafide beast. I'd....pass?
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31 août 2020 à 18 h 52
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I don't think Leafs should do this
31 août 2020 à 18 h 57
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This is disgustingly awful for Toronto. All of them are easily declined.
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31 août 2020 à 19 h 1
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
This is disgustingly awful for Toronto. All of them are easily declined.


Disagree.... Dermott probably too much but that’s a good direction imo
31 août 2020 à 19 h 2
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This is intelligent team building direction.... you are smart!
31 août 2020 à 19 h 2
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I really like Mikheyev, but i don’t think Detroit gives three picks for him.
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31 août 2020 à 19 h 3
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Quoting: joshelkin
Nylander is certainly a big help but the Isles are losing more "important" (meaning relative to their own team) than they are getting back. Beau is turning into a bonafide beast. I'd....pass?


If you think for one moment that nylander couldn’t replace beauvillier in the top 6 you are nuts. I get it. People like their players. If someone offered me McKinnon for nylander I would be like yes please.

The cap issues kill this
31 août 2020 à 19 h 7
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Quoting: MatthewsDynasty
@OldNYIfan how is this?


Quoting: Jamiepo
Well I am sure he is going to love it... other than the cap issues.

For Toronto... it is gross.


Quoting: joshelkin
Nylander is certainly a big help but the Isles are losing more "important" (meaning relative to their own team) than they are getting back. Beau is turning into a bonafide beast. I'd....pass?


I don't think this makes sense for either team. Toronto gets a cheap improvement on Johnsson, a solid RD they desperately need, and a great bottom-6 C, but at the cost of a world-class RW and a guy who looks like he's a viable NHL-quality defenseman (plus window dressing). From the Islanders' side, I agree with @joshelkin that it makes little sense to move 3 guys out from a Cup-contending team, even for Nylander, and from Toronto's side, losing Nylander seems to me to be a bad idea. I think that NY is closer to saying Yes, but declines.
31 août 2020 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: JimmyV1993
I really like Mikheyev, but i don’t think Detroit gives three picks for him.


Maybe down the road a bit but after his first season where he had 8 goals and 23 points. I'm not sure he gets one 3rd by himself.
31 août 2020 à 21 h 52
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Quoting: Jamiepo
If you think for one moment that nylander couldn’t replace beauvillier in the top 6 you are nuts. I get it. People like their players. If someone offered me McKinnon for nylander I would be like yes please.

The cap issues kill this


Nylander production is likely more, sure. But again, Isles lose their most versatile forward/PKer/break up their crucial 4th line/heart and soul of the team. They also lose a cheap alternative RD who is an effective PKer as well. Those guys can't be easily replaced. It's still a pass even if cap wasn't an issue.
31 août 2020 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: joshelkin
Nylander production is likely more, sure. But again, Isles lose their most versatile forward/PKer/break up their crucial 4th line/heart and soul of the team. They also lose a cheap alternative RD who is an effective PKer as well. Those guys can't be easily replaced. It's still a pass even if cap wasn't an issue.


So pker’s and 4th liners can’t be as easily replaced as a talented top 6 versatile lW C RW?
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31 août 2020 à 22 h 51
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So pker’s and 4th liners can’t be as easily replaced as a talented top 6 versatile lW C RW?


Did you see how different the Islanders looked without Cizikas? This isn't a slight against Nylander. This is "which player(s) will impact the Islanders more"

Besides, you're clearly against this trade. Shouldn't be so offended that the other side doesn't want it either lol
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31 août 2020 à 22 h 56
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Maybe down the road a bit but after his first season where he had 8 goals and 23 points. I'm not sure he gets one 3rd by himself.


...in 39 games

I really couldn’t say what his value is. But he is a solid two way player. He looked great in camp and the exhibition and did poorly in the playoffs in.
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31 août 2020 à 23 h 18
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Wings still pass cause leafs fans still have no clue what value means
1 sept. 2020 à 0 h 39
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Quoting: Jamiepo
So pker’s and 4th liners can’t be as easily replaced as a talented top 6 versatile lW C RW?


I've been mulling this over all day. I've come to the conclusion that you're right . . . this is much closer to a Yes by the Islanders than I had originally expressed. PKers, bottom-pairing RDs and bottom-6 Cs are easily replaced no matter how much above the norm for their position they are. Nylander plus trash is probably worth this package, and the add-ons are quite a bit more than trash. The cap factor might be critical (I haven't looked at it), but thinking a lot more about your initial reaction has converted me . . .
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1 sept. 2020 à 0 h 49
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I've been mulling this over all day. I've come to the conclusion that you're right . . . this is much closer to a Yes by the Islanders than I had originally expressed. PKers, bottom-pairing RDs and bottom-6 Cs are easily replaced no matter how much above the norm for their position they are. Nylander plus trash is probably worth this package, and the add-ons are quite a bit more than trash. The cap factor might be critical (I haven't looked at it), but thinking a lot more about your initial reaction has converted me . . .


People love their players I get it. Uncle Leo was never very good but I loved having him on the team. Same goes with Martin. Can they be replaced? Sure quite easily. Cizikis is a great 4c.... because he should be a 3c.

I look at that package and I see a 1st 2nd and two 3rds in value then I look at the Toronto side and I see 2nds (I believe Dermott is worth a 2nd) a 7th and nylander... making nylander worth less than a first.

All pointless because NYI simply can’t add any cap.
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1 sept. 2020 à 9 h 13
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...in 39 games

I really couldn’t say what his value is. But he is a solid two way player. He looked great in camp and the exhibition and did poorly in the playoffs in.


If you want to trade him I wouldn't give him $3.4M after 1 ok season.
 
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