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Strome

Créé par: arafay
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 30 août 2020
Publié: 30 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Credit to @marianne for the base of the idea
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
33 750 000 $
43 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
2.
WPG
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Perreault, Mathieu (25 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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AG
UFA - 6
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C
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UFA - 4
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
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UFA - 1
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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C
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 4
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
RFA - 4
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 4

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30 août 2020 à 19 h 35
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Hey I would do that deal in a heartbeat!!
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30 août 2020 à 19 h 37
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Imitation is the finest form of flattery lol!! Thanks Bro!!
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30 août 2020 à 19 h 40
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Imitation is the finest form of flattery lol!! Thanks Bro!!


I liked the idea of slightly lowering The price on strome by taking on a minor cap dump like smith. Props for that. Same with Shaw. He’s more valueless toss in. If he comes back he’s good depth. If not he goes on ltir
30 août 2020 à 20 h 21
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Not a chance the Hawks do that as Strome is a much better player.

Strome was the #3 pick OA and Roslovic the #25OA. There is a reason for that separation and has gotten larger not closer IMO.

Roslovic 180 NHL games 67 points
Strome 167 NHL games 105 points
30 août 2020 à 20 h 31
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30 août 2020 à 20 h 39
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Eh, if they take Maatta instead of Shaw i'd be sold. If Shaw goes on IR again there's no reason to move him.
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30 août 2020 à 20 h 47
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Eh, if they take Maatta instead of Shaw i'd be sold. If Shaw goes on IR again there's no reason to move him.


How about de haan instead? However, idk how you value each so...

Or, we could upgrade the pick to a 2nd and keep the same deal. Is Shaw retiring a sure thing?
30 août 2020 à 20 h 49
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How about de haan instead? However, idk how you value each so...


I'm pretty sure hawks value De haan higher, but maybe they would take a 2nd instead of a 3rd with Roslovic but it's definitely a tough trade to value.
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30 août 2020 à 20 h 51
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Quoting: NickC1988
I'm pretty sure hawks value De haan higher, but maybe they would take a 2nd instead of a 3rd with Roslovic but it's definitely a tough trade to value.


So what are you proposing to be clear?
30 août 2020 à 21 h 14
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Hawks Decline
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Pretty Pretty Pretty Bad
We can get a better Deal somewhere else
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 17
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Pretty Pretty Pretty Bad
We can get a better Deal somewhere else


Yes, this is brutal. Let's take on a kid that hasn't proven he's worth his 25th overall draft status for the 3rd OA pick that same year, plus shaw and because we don't want to spend $1m to buyout Smith....crazy
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 17
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This is very bad for the Hawks.
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 22
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Yes, this is brutal. Let's take on a kid that hasn't proven he's worth his 25th overall draft status for the 3rd OA pick that same year, plus shaw and because we don't want to spend $1m to buyout Smith....crazy


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This is very bad for the Hawks.


Very bad for the hawks, but something Bowman has done before moving Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina. That one will forever sting.
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 38
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I agree with everyone else. We shouldn’t trade Strome unless we get a top 4 LHD back, or if we can get rid of Seabrook
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 43
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Yes, this is brutal. Let's take on a kid that hasn't proven he's worth his 25th overall draft status for the 3rd OA pick that same year, plus shaw and because we don't want to spend $1m to buyout Smith....crazy


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This is very bad for the Hawks.


I know I could add but Roslovic isn’t nearly as bad as you guys think. They guy would be playing in the top 6 in more than a few nhl teams. The only reason he doesn’t play in WPG is because we have 4 elite wingers ahead of him. He wasn’t ready for top 6 minutes at the beginning of this year but now he is. Imo a 50 pt season next year isn’t out of reach if he has the right linemates and he will only get better.

@ChiHawk proposed Roslovic and the 10 oa for strome. Not to diss strome or anything but no way in hell I even do 10 oa straight up for him. I know the whole kapanen deal is in play but 15 oa was a major overpay and we know that

I am willing to do something like Roslovic and a 2nd + b prospect for him but that’s about it.
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30 août 2020 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: Petrock83
I agree with everyone else. We shouldn’t trade Strome unless we get a top 4 LHD back, or if we can get rid of Seabrook


Fair enough
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30 août 2020 à 23 h 11
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I know I could add but Roslovic isn’t nearly as bad as you guys think. They guy would be playing in the top 6 in more than a few nhl teams. The only reason he doesn’t play in WPG is because we have 4 elite wingers ahead of him. He wasn’t ready for top 6 minutes at the beginning of this year but now he is. Imo a 50 pt season next year isn’t out of reach if he has the right linemates and he will only get better.

@ChiHawk proposed Roslovic and the 10 oa for strome. Not to diss strome or anything but no way in hell I even do 10 oa straight up for him. I know the whole kapanen deal is in play but 15 oa was a major overpay and we know that

I am willing to do something like Roslovic and a 2nd + b prospect for him but that’s about it.


Strome is worth more more then Kap and that is not close. Yes, Pit overpaid, but even then, Strome is considerably better then Kap, a player that never eclipsed 44 points and is a winger not a center.
30 août 2020 à 23 h 11
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I know I could add but Roslovic isn’t nearly as bad as you guys think. They guy would be playing in the top 6 in more than a few nhl teams. The only reason he doesn’t play in WPG is because we have 4 elite wingers ahead of him. He wasn’t ready for top 6 minutes at the beginning of this year but now he is. Imo a 50 pt season next year isn’t out of reach if he has the right linemates and he will only get better.

@ChiHawk proposed Roslovic and the 10 oa for strome. Not to diss strome or anything but no way in hell I even do 10 oa straight up for him. I know the whole kapanen deal is in play but 15 oa was a major overpay and we know that

I am willing to do something like Roslovic and a 2nd + b prospect for him but that’s about it.


We aren't touching Roslovic, a 2nd and b prospect for Strome.
31 août 2020 à 0 h 25
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Gotta agree with the consensus. Should definitely get that top 4 LHD. However.....

I Will take a different angle. I have to admit that trading strome to rid ourselves of A LOT of cap is nice. Strome isn’t a player for the future of hawks. He just isn’t. I didn’t like him when we got him and i really don’t like the intangibles he brings (or doesn’t). He isn’t fast, he’s bad defensively, and he is not a playoff performer. However, what he can do in the regular season with scoring can definitely benefit another team (Wild????). But honestly, I don’t hate the idea for the sake of cap.
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31 août 2020 à 0 h 40
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Strome is worth more more then Kap and that is not close. Yes, Pit overpaid, but even then, Strome is considerably better then Kap, a player that never eclipsed 44 points and is a winger not a center.


I never said kapanen and strome are equal. I said that you can’t base a strome deal or any other deal really on the kapanen one cause that was a royal overpay against market value
31 août 2020 à 10 h 11
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I'm not a huge fan of this trade. I like Strome, but also understand his talent is made for a #2C...which he wont be on the Hawks. He's not really made for the #3C role nor the limited minutes than come with that role. The Hawks really dont need Rosy. Id prefer us to find a better trade OR just sign him, play him, and see how it goes. Maybe an actual hockey trade happens in season next year? If MIN is out of if maybe it's a tdl Brodin trade? IDK, but high end defense should be our target. Not a middle 6 winger.
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31 août 2020 à 14 h 57
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Not a fan of it much at all. Would rather see us maximize our return than use him to dump cap. The only way it would be worth it to me is if it was to make room for a guy like hall or Hoffman
31 août 2020 à 14 h 59
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Not a fan of it much at all. Would rather see us maximize our return than use him to dump cap. The only way it would be worth it to me is if it was to make room for a guy like hall or Hoffman


Yeah, it's a horrid trade for the Hawks. $1M in Smith ends up costing us Strome? Roslovic is unimpressive, just a role player non impact player
31 août 2020 à 15 h 2
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I dont like the idea of muddying stromes value with cap dumps now that we finally we finally have a high value trade piece. Not a lot of young rfas centers are on the chopping block. We can move/buyout smith or trade shaw in a separate deal and get a better return for strome alone or add positive assets and get a really nice piece back. If JR is the main piece coming back from wpg how bout him and a pair of 2nds for strome
 
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