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MANTHA

Créé par: Shanesaw9
Date de création initiale: aoû 28, 2020
Publié: 28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 16
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
A wings fan has told me Detroit needs the following:
- Centers (Domi)
- Left D (Mete, could change Mete out for Harris)
- High Picks (16th overall)

Considering Domi and Mantha have identical PPG over their careers, considering Domi set a career high of 72 pts last year and Mantha was on pace for 72 pts this year... I don't see how you can say no. It meets 3 needs for the organization and the bottom line is it is an overpayment.

Jets Trade meets the needs for both organizations, MTL needs wingers Jets need C's. Drafted 24th and 25th, both have had strong world juniors. Added in the rights to McNiven because he could use a change of scenery, former CHL goalie of the year.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mantha, Anthony86 000 000 $
Blandisi, Joseph1700 000 $
Evans, Jake2700 000 $
Juulsen, Noah2900 000 $
Ouellet, Xavier2950 000 $
Vejdemo, Lukas2825 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail56 341 151 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Kovalchuk, Ilya11 750 000 $
McCarron, Michael2700 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Sergachev, Mikhail6 341 151 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Transactions
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  2. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
WPG
  1. Poehling, Ryan
  2. McNiven, Michael [Droits de RFA]
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
CHI
STL
MTL
WSH
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
OTT
2021
MTL
CHI
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $75 964 127 $0 $3 137 500 $5 535 873 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Mantha, Anthony
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Kovalchuk, Ilya
1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 3
MTL
Evans, Jake
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
McCarron, Michael
700 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Sergachev, Mikhail
6 341 151 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
900 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Suzuki, N.
Kotkaniemi, J.
Mantha, A.
Drouin, J.
Sergachev, M.
Avantage numérique 2
Kovalchuk, I.
Danault, P.
Tatar, T.
Weber, S.
Petry, J.
Infériorité numérique 1
Danault, P.
Lehkonen, A.
Chiarot, B.
Romanov, A.
Infériorité numérique 2
Suzuki, N.
Byron, P.
Sergachev, M.
Weber, S.

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28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 19
#1
Rejoint: nov 2019
Messages: 79
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Mantha is so overrated it’s crazy...I would do Domi for Mantha straight up but nothing more. Adding a 1st is preposterous
28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 23
#2
Démarrer sujet
Habs 2010
Rejoint: mai 2020
Messages: 675
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For those who say Mantha is overrated, take 25 minutes of your time to watch his plays from this season.

As much as we habs fans would like to say Domi straight up for Mantha is fair, we know we are lying to ourselves. I also think Domi has more value than Red wings fans are giving him credit for though.

Edit: why are there not more videos like this on YouTube!
28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 31
#3
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This is also a good watch for Domi, doesn't even show off his best asset which is his playmaking, but still 28 goals.
28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 32
#4
Rejoint: jui 2020
Messages: 4,356
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I think the Jets might move Vesalainen, but they don't need a 3C or a goalie prospect, so those parts don't work for Winnipeg.
28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 37
#5
Rejoint: avr 2020
Messages: 3,670
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Mantha is so overrated it’s crazy...I would do Domi for Mantha straight up but nothing more. Adding a 1st is preposterous


Yea Mantha is the overrated one here. Certainly not Domi in any way.
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28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 48
#6
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Habs 2010
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Quoting: Windjammer
I think the Jets might move Vesalainen, but they don't need a 3C or a goalie prospect, so those parts don't work for Winnipeg.


I wouldn't label poehling as a 3C I think of him as Danault 2.0.

Danault didn't play a top 6 role until he was 23 years old.
28 aoû 2020 à 16 h 59
#7
redw1n9s
Rejoint: mar 2016
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Mantha is so overrated it’s crazy...I would do Domi for Mantha straight up but nothing more. Adding a 1st is preposterous


lol...that's cute.

There's a reason you'd do it straight up but a Wings fan (and any GM) wouldn't.....
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28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 00
#8
Rejoint: jui 2020
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Quoting: Shanesaw9
I wouldn't label poehling as a 3C I think of him as Danault 2.0.

Danault didn't play a top 6 role until he was 23 years old.


Maybe, but right now Poehling hasn't shown any indication that he will be able to do that. So, I think the Jets would be better off holding onto Vesalainen and possibly using him to acquire a for sure 2C.
28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 12
#9
Boris Bagel
Rejoint: oct 2016
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McCarron??? that ship has sailed for Habs.
28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 13
#10
Rejoint: jun 2020
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Detroit isn’t trading Mantha
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28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 13
#11
The Darkest Timeline
Rejoint: fév 2018
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I think the difference is we've seen domi at his best and we haven't seen manthas yet because he wont stop trying to fight people. Just stop it dude.
28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 14
#12
Boris Bagel
Rejoint: oct 2016
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Quoting: Windjammer
Maybe, but right now Poehling hasn't shown any indication that he will be able to do that. So, I think the Jets would be better off holding onto Vesalainen and possibly using him to acquire a for sure 2C.


Vesalainen won't get Jets a #2C.
28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 46
#13
Rejoint: jui 2020
Messages: 988
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Mantha is so overrated it’s crazy...I would do Domi for Mantha straight up but nothing more. Adding a 1st is preposterous


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w
28 aoû 2020 à 17 h 48
#14
Rejoint: jui 2020
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To give more clarity to OP. Detroit's need is elite talent.
Mantha has that in some areas of his game, and so of all players on the roster would be the hardest to acquire, (you could argue about Larkin) It HAS to start with a player with elite potential in some aspects of his game. so far watching montreal that means Caufield, Suzuki or Kotkaniemi. MUST be included otherwise the deal makes no sense. Note that is a starting point, not a complete 1:1 deal.
29 aoû 2020 à 9 h 59
#15
Go Wings Go
Rejoint: jun 2016
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Detroit declines, You can't give Mantha 8 years only we can. And for 8 years you're looking at closer to $7.5 million per for Mantha.
29 aoû 2020 à 10 h 01
#16
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Mantha is so overrated it’s crazy...I would do Domi for Mantha straight up but nothing more. Adding a 1st is preposterous


Domi plays soft, No way you'tr getting Mantha for that smurf.
29 aoû 2020 à 11 h 19
#17
Rejoint: nov 2019
Messages: 79
Mentions "j'aime": 33
Quoting: Shanesaw9


For those who say Mantha is overrated, take 25 minutes of your time to watch his plays from this season.

As much as we habs fans would like to say Domi straight up for Mantha is fair, we know we are lying to ourselves. I also think Domi has more value than Red wings fans are giving him credit for though.

Edit: why are there not more videos like this on YouTube!


Is this a joke? The first clip and minute is a 5 foot pass to Larkin....Domi and mete for mantha is fair
 
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