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(TOR/PIT) - Kapanen, Åberg, Lindgren for 2020 1st, Rodrigues, Hållander, Warsofsky

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25 août 2020 à 12 h 32
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Pontus Aberg has been on 7 FREAKING NHL TEAMS!!!!


Remember when he had that really good run for Nashville and people thought he was a stud.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 33
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SUMMARY - ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS. #FireGMJR better be trending on Twitter at some point today.

At a high level, what I think this boils down to is a 1st and Hallander for Kapanen and Lindgren, and even at that high of level that is a terrible trade for the Pens. Warsofsky (journeyman AHL-er) and Aberg seem to cancel each other out. Rodrigues is a serviceable forward, but he couldn't crack the Pens top 12 in the Montreal series (which I think speaks more to Pens coaching than it does Rodrigues' ability), but the Pens weren't going to sign him anyway. So you give up a first in a deep draft and a highly-regarded prospect (18 2nd) for Kapanen and Lindgren? NO THANK YOU.

Go higher level... If you do Hallander for Kapanen, one-for-one, as a Pens fan, yes, I'd be ok with that (although admittedly I don't think the Leafs do that deal). If you do just the 1st for Kapanen, I don't think I like that deal as a Pens fan. No matter how you slice and dice this deal, this is a BAD deal from the Pittsburgh side.

At least keeping and drafting at 15, you give fans some hope for the future. It helps you with a quick on-the-fly rebuild a la the Blackhawks, not a crash and burn like the Kings or Sharks. We're heading for a bad time ahead, if we're not already there.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 36
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JR was smoking sm nice today
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 37
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I like this trade for Toronto. Dubas gets pretty great value for Kapanen after a disappointing season. This is an off season where I think having extra assets and cap space can have a big impact. With a flat cap and players maybe interested in playing in Canada more than they normally would, I think you can probably replace Kapanen through free agency at a lower cost, so getting a 1st and a prospect with any NHL upside seems pretty good.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 37
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Best part about Dubas being the GM is he will find a way to lose this trade
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 39
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Best part about Dubas being the GM is he will find a way to lose this trade


getting in on the ground floor for the revisionism next year. smart.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 41
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CF forgot to add one of JR's conditions to the trade...
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 41
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FiRe DuBaS
25 août 2020 à 12 h 41
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You liked trading for Brassard, Hagelin, Pearson, Bjugstad, Gudbranson, and Galchenyuk? He's been a terrible GM for a while now.


Even when he makes good trades he ruins them.... Maatta for Kuhun.....amazing but then... lol. that Zucker trade also.... it could be a lottery pick. this team might not make playoffs if theres an injury/ they trade Murray and Jarry isnt an actual good goalie.... so many things going on here
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 45
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I'll admit. I have been pretty critical on the leafs of late. But it's really difficult to see any way this isn't a win for the leafs. I fully expect Kap to rebound and become and absolute force, as every player who leaves the leafs seems to do, I believe they're selling low on a really good player. But even then, this is still a win for Toronto.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 45
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I really hope the Leafs don't give the QO to Rodrigues.
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 47
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Dubas: "Well, this is an absolute no brainer for us here in Toronto. I'm going to accept this deal before you change your mind about it."
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 48
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I really hope the Leafs don't give the QO to Rodrigues.


They'll probably not qualify him but will then re-sign him to something anyway. That's been done before to avoid paying RFAs too much (past precedents: Beau Bennett, Devante Smith-Pelly, Brett Connolly, Justin Schultz, and Martin Frk).
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25 août 2020 à 12 h 52
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They'll probably not qualify him but will then re-sign him to something anyway. That's been done before to avoid paying RFAs too much (past precedents: Beau Bennett, Devante Smith-Pelly, Brett Connolly, Justin Schultz, and Martin Frk).


Certainly didn't happen for Cody Ceci.
25 août 2020 à 12 h 57
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I totally agree that TOR fleeced PIT here but I can't help but think TOR never gave Kapanen a fair chance in the top 6.
25 août 2020 à 12 h 59
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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane
I totally agree that TOR fleeced PIT here but I can't help but think TOR never gave Kapanen a fair chance in the top 6.


He started the season with Tavares and Marner.
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 2
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Certainly didn't happen for Cody Ceci.


Ottawa had already qualified him.
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 3
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I mean sure I'll take that for Kapanen any day I would have taken just a 1st for Kapanen he was useless against Columbus.
25 août 2020 à 13 h 4
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I like this trade for Toronto. Dubas gets pretty great value for Kapanen after a disappointing season. This is an off season where I think having extra assets and cap space can have a big impact. With a flat cap and players maybe interested in playing in Canada more than they normally would, I think you can probably replace Kapanen through free agency at a lower cost, so getting a 1st and a prospect with any NHL upside seems pretty good.


This also stops Seattle from taking Kapanen in the expansion draft.
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 5
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I honestly think that kapanen has 50-60 pt potential, especially next to Crosby or Malkin. He is also very cheap if he gets there. The pens were also the team that drafted kapanen so I guess Rutherford is still high on him. That said, this is an overpayment. Hallander has similar potential to kapanen and Rodriguez is worth a mid pick. At most I would be giving hallander, a 2nd, and Rodrigues. The top 15 pick in a very deep draft is a massive overpayment for kapanen alone. Rutherford must be very high on him and a little bit of something else
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 10
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Why the hell does GMJR have this obsession with trading 1st round picks? Not to mention, Hallander was a good prospect too. Massive overpayment for Kapanen and I'm not impressed.
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 16
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I remember the same hype where homers were yelling how Dubarelli fleeced Sakic back in Jul 2019.......
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: Laudan
I remember the same hype where homesr were yelling how Dubas fleeced Sakic back in Jul 2019.......


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getting in on the ground floor for the revisionism next year. smart.
25 août 2020 à 13 h 25
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This is clearly a win for the Leafs and now the Pens don't a 1st this season or next season. Stop trading 1st round picks for bloody wingers and this isn't even a proven 2nd liner!?
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25 août 2020 à 13 h 27
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Although Dubas is the one GM if it looks good on paper doesn't mean it's reality. (Barrie trade)
 
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