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Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 24 août 2020
Publié: 24 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
11 750 000 $
1800 000 $
22 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
15 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Niederreiter, Nino
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
2.
CAR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
3.
CAR
  1. Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NYR
Logo de BUF
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de TOR
2021
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de MIN
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de STL
2022
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de MIN
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de MIN
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $81 687 322 $1 367 073 $3 207 500 $-187 322 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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24 août 2020 à 14 h 35
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just about all of this wrong. JG is worth more than NN and a couple of okay picks.
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24 août 2020 à 14 h 35
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Calgary quickly declines and Lehner said he isn't taking another 1 year deal
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24 août 2020 à 14 h 37
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Vancouver declines Virtanen is better and cheaper than Dzingel
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24 août 2020 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: ecupirate07
just about all of this wrong. JG is worth more than NN and a couple of okay picks.


Don't disagree there. Could throw in a later 1st in place of the 3rd.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 49
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Calgary quickly declines and Lehner said he isn't taking another 1 year deal


Lehner signing was supposed to be 3 years, no idea why it changed to 1.
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24 août 2020 à 14 h 49
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where do I hear you out? I don't see an explanation
24 août 2020 à 14 h 50
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Quoting: TheAlien
Vancouver declines Virtanen is better and cheaper than Dzingel


Honestly depends. Virtanen has had his issues with Vancouver.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 51
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where do I hear you out? I don't see an explanation


...I mean, the roster is right up there, champ.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 51
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...I mean, the roster is right up there, champ.


i appreciate the smartass response but I'm waiting to hear you out
24 août 2020 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: Hedman77
i appreciate the smartass response but I'm waiting to hear you out


Then look at the roster, bud. It's really not hard.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 52
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You think CGY contacts 30 GMs about Gaudreau being available and that is their best return?
24 août 2020 à 14 h 52
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Don't disagree there. Could throw in a later 1st in place of the 3rd.

How about you scrap the whole trade, start again with Necas+Pesce+1st and ask if they’d want Bokk, Bean, or Kochetkov for the last piece, like god damn why do people propose these trades and act like Gaudreau, an established elite playmaker with 2 affordable years left, is a half-decent 2nd liner on an expiring contract
24 août 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: McRanteskog
You think CGY contacts 30 GMs about Gaudreau being available and that is their best return?


Yea, sure, let's go with that.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: Alfie11
How about you scrap the whole trade, start again with Necas+Pesce+1st and ask if they’d want Bokk, Bean, or Kochetkov for the last piece, like god damn why do people propose these trades and act like Gaudreau, an established elite playmaker with 2 affordable years left, is a half-decent 2nd liner on an expiring contract


lol, no.
24 août 2020 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: MattNid
lol, no.

Then you don’t get Gaudreau, end of story. Pay up or shut up
24 août 2020 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: Alfie11
Then you don’t get Gaudreau, end of story. Pay up or shut up


Ok, Treliving.
24 août 2020 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: MattNid
Honestly depends. Virtanen has had his issues with Vancouver.


I don't know if that's necessarily true, but even if he does have issues they won't trade him unless the value is fair
24 août 2020 à 15 h 25
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As a canes fan, I can say all of those targets make sense. I can also say that in every single deal you are grossly underpaying. All of those deals are going to need more added to them. Gaudreau is going to need a first and one of our best prospects. Something like Nino, Bean, a 2021 first, and the rangers 2020 second might get it there. Mrazek would be lucky to get a single 3rd for him let alone 2. Virtanen probably add another 3rd rounder going to Vancouver at least.
24 août 2020 à 15 h 32
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Minnesota doesn't need anymore bodies at goaltender
24 août 2020 à 16 h 27
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You do not want Virtanen. He's going to party himself out of the league
24 août 2020 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Alfie11
How about you scrap the whole trade, start again with Necas+Pesce+1st and ask if they’d want Bokk, Bean, or Kochetkov for the last piece, like god damn why do people propose these trades and act like Gaudreau, an established elite playmaker with 2 affordable years left, is a half-decent 2nd liner on an expiring contract


Because he is a decent one dimensional winger that hasn't shown up for the playoffs... Ever. You think GMs don't notice? I love his skill set but if he's having a bad game he's invisible. If he gets traded the return will be interesting.
Yes this is light, he should get more, but your trade of a top 4 D, plus their 2 best prospects at their positions and a 1st is in another galaxy.
24 août 2020 à 16 h 51
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Because he is a decent one dimensional winger that hasn't shown up for the playoffs... Ever. You think GMs don't notice? I love his skill set but if he's having a bad game he's invisible. If he gets traded the return will be interesting.
Yes this is light, he should get more, but your trade of a top 4 D, plus their 2 best prospects at their positions and a 1st is in another galaxy.

Please watch him play before assuming something based on the stats. I watched every game and he played genuinely poorly in maybe one of the first nine (WPG series+first 5 of DAL series). Every single person on the Flames, including the coach and the backup goalie, were bad for the last two periods of that horrendous Game 6 but overall Johnny had a pretty solid playoffs for what you could expect a playmaker to do. Playmakers are gonna look poor on the stats sheet if the finishers don't show up, and that's what happened here. Look at his point distribution--4 of his 7 points were goals, and if you remove the empty netter he was pretty close to his career average (like 0.6% below but honestly that's like 1 extra shot) so while you'd hope for more, you shouldn't complain about getting what you expect. The fact that he had less assists than goals when normally he should be getting double or triple has more to do with Monahan and Lindholm refusing to find open space unless Johnny can get around the whole team. He was usually getting past two guys and drawing a 3rd over, who would either take the puck because nobody got open in the space that created, or if someone was open, they wouldn't finish the feed. In the regular season he can take 4 guys out of the play, but teams buckle down in the playoffs and 2-3 should be more than good enough to create space for anyone else. Disappointing for the Flames, but Johnny wasn't at fault.
24 août 2020 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: MattNid
Then look at the roster, bud. It's really not hard.


Are you gonna explain the moves? I’m waiting to hear you out.
25 août 2020 à 2 h 6
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VAN decline, they would rather keep a cost controlled RFA.
 
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